An Evolver Open Source Floating Gallery
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I have a proposal, an idea. The following is my best argument why it should be done. This is a little bit of a technical argument/explanation, so feel free to join in or give ideas. And please talk to me because I can't write out everything.
The idea is to first create an agreed-upon standardization, and then use the new tools of the creative commons licence and digital sharing to create a floating art show for Evolvers. It would actually take precious little amount of commitment and energy... and it could be really cool, and everyone could express themselves and share their art with the public. And make money from abundance, not scarcity.
When I was in Vancouver, they had this event called the art box show, and the idea behind it was everyone gets a small wooden box, like 10 inches square but an inch on the side so you could hang it on a wall, and the instructions are that there are no rules as to what you can do with the box, then they have a fancy gallery thing, you know with free wine and such, and sell them for $100 bucks each. Anyway the basic idea is that everyone agrees on a standardized starting point to work with, and then that allows their own creativity to shine as well as creating something of a commodity that was easily priced. I'm suggesting that evolvers do something similar, just free of a physical location or specific event, and miniaturized.
I am also suggesting that this be based around digital art and that everything contributed be shared somewhere (probably a flickr group) under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 licence. The reason being, that the finished piece must be something that anyone, anywhere can more or less easily print up and make.... even remix... unlike an original painting or sculpture. Of course you might have a painting, and make a print of it. These little squares could all be anonymous (or names/credits on the back), they could be all contributed by different individuals, or there could be ones that are remixed or situations where authorship are blurred. So why would an artist want to do this? First of all it's like a public floating gallery (we are all curators) with aspects of a "brand" (you know, the evolver brand?).
I believe that the format should be square 4x4 or 4x6, and it should be printed on some kind of eco-friendly paper and ink, and have some kind of frame or mat, that is where people can get more or less creative. I say squares because you on a wall, they look better stacked not just right to left but on top of each other as well. But no glass, because of the weight. It should be something that is easily transportable and you should be able to throw the whole thing into the compost pile.
How could you sell these prints? First of all for a spore, you could make it part of the admission and everyone gets one complimentary, and you could set up a small wall or table in the spore and display the monthly or quarterly prints. There wouldn't have to be that much coordination.
We can create a group on Flickr, put up our submissions. And use their Creative Commons option to licence it. What are the benefits of using the creative commons licence? Well, I don't want to go into the details but if someone doesn't know please ask. I think most people here are informed about it. The idea is also that eventually, these squares would breed with one another and authorship would be mixed. Really, the possibilities are endless.
Of course like I said I'm putting this idea out there, because someone has to. If the creators of evolver wanted to develop this idea, they could easily provide more funding for the spores. We can do the rest. The idea is that some people get together, and agree to blog/advertise more (not just me). Then get some regional coordinators on board, etc. It doesn't have to be done right away, but it's something to plan on and organize. And for anyone who's interested, work on some stuff maybe and try printing it out at home. I could really use some suggestions as to the best printing services for making eco-friendly compostable prints, and figuring out a way to frame it as well (folded hemp paper?) that makes it look good in a matte sort of way.
So let me know what you think. Especially if you don't think it will work or something is a bad idea.
-Rob Meade
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I think this is a good idea.
I think this is a good idea. One thing I would suggest however is that until someone steps out to really help you, you're going to have to do it yourself. I haven't had a whole lot of success asking for any help from people that isn't a one time thing. It seems to me the most successful projects on Evolver and elsewhere are the ones that you just dump yourself into and then when it picks up momentum people might come out of the woodworks to help you if you're lucky. Even most of the things I do to help Evolver HQ were kind of my idea asked them about it and then just did it. You should just do it, and if I can I will help you, although currently I'm super busy doing all kinds of crap. Like I said do it! And then after you have established it if there is something I can do to help I will. Best of luck.
-Invisible Agent
"No one really knows exactly what happens when we think, therefor we can never really ever know anything." -Michael Larson
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Thanks Chris,
I agree with you totally, and I have been doing this for myself. Now I am trying to ratchet it up; collaborate with other artists and spores. It isn't ready by any means, but that is why I'm putting this out now. In Vancouver I went to a very craft fair type things, very much like a spore in intention, and I have a small table with prints for $5 each, which cost about a buck to make (they were in frames), but mostly everything sold and I made about 50 bucks on it.. and it wasn't even that much of a busy event. But they could have been $10 bucks each.
When people attend large events like this, especially if there is an admission, people enjoy getting something back, especially something they can collect and feel good about, while supporting the event, you know? Just like how people buy t-shirts at concerts. Especially when the print itself is part of a changing paradigm, being open source, democratic in nature and sustainable.
Let me ask you Chris, you run a spore, right? Do you charge admission? You know, for the price of your time in organizing the event and everything, paying for flyers and everything? I realize you and Ginnie are probably strapped for cash with a baby coming and all... and Ginnie wrote that whole blog on things being financially sustainable, so I know we are on the same page here.
Now I am willing, when I get my shit together, to just mail you some prints as 'samples' for your spore. God willing, I could do it for some other folks too. It's up to you what you do with it. And trust me Chris, even writing a little bit here helps me a shit ton. But as things go on, I'm be blogging the website with my idea and do it myself like you said, and eventually people will join in because they will realize that it's the future and its not about me.
The main people I'm targeting at this point are other artists like me who frequent the site (I'd like to have some co-conspirators), and the people who run the spores, not Daniel Pinchbeck n gang. If he liked to write a short blog about it I'm sure it would garner more attention than I ever could, but I would imagine he would like to approve of the art first.
-Meade
Yes I do run a spore, but
Yes I do run a spore, but tomorrow night will be the first one I'm going to be asking money for, because we have to have some funds for the next one. If you wanted to drum up some business for your art though I could bring them up at the spore. What I meant when I said do your self is set up the flickr account, put some of your art out there, with the stated intention of it being for this idea. Ask others if they have art that they would also like to put up on the flickr page. If you set up a site with all of the art on it I will post a little piece about it and a link to the site for all of the regional coordinators to see, and express to them that you would like this art to be available at the spores. Like I said I like this idea and I'm willing to help, but unfortunately with how busy I've been lately I can't help much except for on the promotion end. So get this ball rolling virally and then I'll do what I can to help from there.
-Invisible Agent
"No one really knows exactly what happens when we think, therefor we can never really ever know anything." -Michael Larson
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Yeah, of course Chris, promotion is great.
Now wouldn't it be nice, once you ask for money, to at least have something cool to give back to people, like, thanks for your donation? That's how it works. Or at least it's one way how it works.
I'm busy at the moment too, I already set up a Flickr account but I want to crop and find a bit more of my stuff to put up on there. But we should have that flickr group up shortly anyway. The hardcore promotion will come once we have an initial gallery up on there, but for the time being I'm just talking with other evolver artists.
There is still a lot of technical things I need people to agree on and drumming up support from artists who come out of the woodwork.
-Meade
Oh! You're talking here!
I was over there. On Joanne's 'Down like Charlie Brown' blog, Jonathan_C piped in as well. He's a co-sporganizer here in Bloomington. See? We are in the woodworks!
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Of course River, you don't need to go back to traditional media to do this. I actually think mixing it up is best... I create everything in GIMP. But some of my old paintings are mixed in.
I said 4x4 or 4x6 because I know the easiest most universal way to print up and frame prints. Not only that, but it creates a display and creative problem when some are lateral and some vertical like you said. And it needs to be absolutely easy for a non-artist to set up. I'm really not sure which one is best, but it is important that everyone make a submission of the same size. I said square because if you are going to display them on a wall or a table, squares work better because the whole thing looks more coherent (as an exquisite corpse). That definitely needs more experimentation.
I'm busy too, but this is why this project is, essentially, breathtakingly easy to do (from the comfort of your own home). We will create a flickr group, and all we will do is collect submissions, essentially... and probably sometime around the winter there will be enough in digital form. I'm going to be experimenting with printing out my own stuff anyway, so it's an ongoing thing. But talking to here lights a fire under my butt too.
We can talk in the cyber gallery, but of course I posted this everywhere so the maximum amount of people see it. And I will post more too.





