Shaman Dreams

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April 24, 2009

I wanted to throw up a post to collect Shamanistic dreams--dreams where we're being led to certain truths either by parental figures or by "others"--anyone from actual shamans to... you know.

I have a particular dream that's followed and informed my life for a decade now. I'll share it in the response lines below.

What are your shaman dream experiences?

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Shaman Dream

About ten years ago, I had this dream. I remember it vividly.

I come to awareness on a mesa overlooking a sweeping valley ringed by painted mesas, mountains ranging gray in the distance. Thick stratus clouds blanket the sky overhead, and wind whips the mesa top's grasses into a snapping flurry. A pair of children--small, blond haired and blue eyes--are chasing a silver long-tailed fox through the grasses and laughing. Concerned they'll hurt themselves or the fox, I chase after them. At one point, they vanish into a thicket of tall, amber grasses. I can't find them.

At this point, a Native American man shrouded entirely in shadow appears behind me, standing near a gnarled, dead tree hanging on the mesa's edge. I can barely make out his features. He tells me the children have left this world, followed the fox into the next. We must act quickly, he says, or we'll lose them forever.

I ask him where they have gone. "They are, like you, children of Light-and-Shadow," he told me. "But they have journeyed into the Realm of Light. If they stray their too long, they'll be lost forever. You must save them." I ask him what I must do to save them and he tells me, "We must remove your shadow from your body. Then you will be half a man, the Light half. Then you can follow them into the Light. Find them. Bring them back." "Show me what I must do," I told him.

We walked to the tree. He said a short chant and the clouds parted. Sunlight revealed my shadow, and the winds whipped the grasses furiously. He handed me two rocks and told me to shove them between my feet and my shadow. As I did so, he explained.

"There are three worlds. The Realm of Light, the Real of Shadow, and the Realm of Light-and-Shadow. I am of the Shadow. The fox is of the Light. You and the children are of Light-and-Shadow. I cannot follow them into the Light--I am wholly shadow and have no light in me. You can go into the light, but you must pin your shadow to the ground here, keep it from being blown away, and you must return before the sun sets. You must not lose your shadow to the wind or to the night--you will be a man divided until you are reunited with it. Lose it, lose yourself."

I jammed the rocks into my shadow at the base of my feet. The world exploded as my shadow was torn free: The wind almost knocked me off the cliff, the clouds sped through the sky, my shadow whipped wildly from it's rocks. Golds turned to platinums, blues turned to purples, oranges and browns shown more richly and metallically. My skin was pale and glowing eerily.

The shaman had me pin my shadow more securely--a rock in my heart chakra, in my face, and one in each shoulder. He said these six stones would hold my shadow in place, but that they would deny me access to those chakras.

I followed the children into the tall grasses and emerged into the world of Light. The light burned the whole of my being--including physical awareness and awareness of this reality--away.

Here, the dream is difficult to describe. I was not in this world--if visual descriptions work, I was in a reality of undulating pale blue energy. I was aware, if you could call if that, of countless other animated wills, though they were formless but moving... There was no language, just... individual assertion of feeling, of will, and of awareness and intent. It was powerfully peaceful and calm.

I'd forgotten myself and was lost there for sometime, awash in a tide of light and other. Finally, a stern reprimand was handed me--a "voice" or collection of "voices" willed me: I was not of this place and needed to leave before it destroyed me. I inquired about the children. I was moved into a "room," a kind of cathedral, filled with chords from the ceiling to the ground threaded with pulsing blue crystal spheres the size of basket balls. I was instructed to touch them, to adjust them. I willed myself near them, placed what amounted to my "hands" on one of them. The pain was impossible to bear, overwhelming, terrifying. It was though every fiber of my being was burning, right down to the neurons themselves experiencing pain.

Various "voices" were trying to "tell" me the location of the children, but terrified by the blue spheres and their pain, I dashed back to the exit and out of the Realm of Light.

The sun was setting on the mesa, and the Shadow Shaman shouted, "Hurry!" against the deafening winds. We returned to my shadow, which was hanging on to only the rocks in its feet now and was being tossed too and fro by the wind. The shadows of night were spilling rapidly into the valley, approaching the mesa and my shadow fast.

I sat down and reattached my shadow to my feet. The world calmed immediately, and night fell. The winds stopped and all was quiet. The silver fox darted through the grasses and yipped at the fresh night.

I told the Shaman I could not find the children. "They are gone, then," he said, "destroyed. You've failed." He told me he could stay no longer and must return to the Shadow. He vanished. I stood alone on the mesa, feeling... bewildered, remorseful, sad, and confused.

A shamanic encounter

Your dream sounds like a full-on shamanic experience. Evidently this forum has a lot of shamen in it! :-)

I saw your comment on the other thread, and yes the books I mentioned there are good introductions to deeper work. Your profile says you're in Portland, which has quite a few shamanic practitioners & workshops if you want first-hand advice.

With practice events like that happen much more often. It varies, but can happen once in a month, several in a week, sometimes none for long stretches.

Fwiw, I've been doing this work a few years and still don't know if it's "real," but here are far too many similarities from person to person to be ignored as purely imaginary. One way to look at it is from the results; how it changes you and your relation to the world.

re Shaman Dreams

Wow. Quite unsettling stuff. I recently had my first shamanic journey led by two Shamans using drums. I received what I found to be a most uplifting message (see http://www.evolver.net/user/danido/blog/effort_will_be_rewarded) and really look forward to journeying again.
You could try going on a Shamanic Journey and asking whoever greets you (Power animal or Guide) to help you understand the meaning of this dream.

Thank you!

It's an older dream, and in the context of my life when it was happening, it made a great deal of sense: I'd given up a great deal of my own personal power in life, and the dream was challenging me to reclaim it. I failed--both in the dream and in my life at the time--to do so. That said, the dream also gave me some insights about how to conduct my way to personal power and deeper awareness. It's lessons have stuck with me, and it's been increasingly relevant as I claim my power now.

At a friend's urging, I participated in a shamanic session shortly after this dream. The shaman I worked with at the time (again, 10 years ago), said that my soul had suffered greatly and needed tremendous healing, and said also that the dream was a call for me to become a shaman. He suspected that shamanic practices would guide me through my own healing successfully, and that I would have much to share with others on the subject of healing when I emerged restored.

I ended up not taking the shamanic path--I didn't feel strong enough and was, frankly, very skeptical at the time--but have recently found in the last year that meditation, hiking, working more with my hands, living fully, a hallucinogenic rite of passage last summer, and exploring my dreams more richly, all of which taken together seem mildly shamanic to me, have really helped me become more fully myself and heal.

I do want to take a shamanic journey. A mushroom trip on the beach in Oregon that shattered and rebuilt my consciousness--a true death and rebirth experience--has led me to conclude I have deeper, stranger, cleverer work ahead of me. Finding a guide or power animal would certainly be helpful.

Thank you both for your responses--I really appreciate it.

Anyone else have any shamanic dreams?

brandon heckman
portland, oregon, usa
mindfulparadigm.com

Dream of attempted healing

Here's a dream I had about a year ago while living in the French Alps. For me, it is more of a subjective interpretation of my life at the time... yet, still open to a bit of interpretation.

I was somehow with a shaman at in a bare 4 walled, carpeted room with 4 chairs or so. I told the Shaman that I wanted to learn and that I was willing to be an apprentice. She accepted me as an apprentice, and gave me an assignment which was to help a friend of mine overcome divorce. All that I needed were the 2 participants to come willingly, and I also needed to bring their legal wedding document.

As the story goes, I had brought them both back to the Shaman's room/office for their healing session. I really wanted to help them part ways in a very peaceful manner; to find a proper balance as divorcees. So, we sat in our 4-chair circle or corners. The shaman began her ritual, shaking a rattle, summoning helping spirits, and trying to suck the demons out of them. Finally, in the middle of her ritual healing she demanded that I present the legal wedding document. This is where it gets weird.

As it turned out, silly Dream-me forgot to bring the blasted document. I became totally nervous because I was going to fail my first job as an apprentice. And she said, well, then we are not safe if we do not have the document to absorb these energies. Immediately I was struck with a high bolt of energy and fell to the floor. I was immobilized, unable to control my body as it shook or vibrated at an extremely high and uncomfortable frequency-- kind of like a seizure. I used my last bit of control to squeeze out "Help me..." in a voice vibrating with reverb. She knelt down over me, and said everything will be okay. She touched my forehead with her finger and everything went white. At which point I woke up, still vibrating in my bones...

Individuation

Hi Lee,

I have been recently reading about Jung's concept of individuation and his interpretation of alchemy as a psychological metaphor for transformation of self through uniting the opposites. Jung notes that the number 4 is key in alchemic symbolism and is related to the cross which can be seen as a symbol of opposites converging. The wedding document needed to absorb the energies and overcome divorce sounds very much about the process of unification of opposites which seems to be very powerful indeed.

I can't give a complete explanation of your dream, but I feel strongly that it relates to some kind of collective process going on. This is also seen in the dream posted by Meg in this group where spheres emerge in pairs from the earth, "gnashing" people from the feet up.

There is also a dream related by Jungian Analyst Edward Edinger which is about New York City being destroyed by a race of human-eating extraterrestrial giants. The attack turns out to be a wedding ceremony for the king and queen giants, and only humans whose blood pressure is within a certain range, not too high or too low, are allowed to survive and take part in the wedding ceremony.

I would recommend looking into some of these ideas of individuation and alchemy further as they seem to be coming through in a collective way.

Thank you

Thanks for your thoughtful response, John. I will definitely look into these topics. Do you have any books you could suggest? =]

Edinger

Lee,
I'd recommend Edward Edinger's The Creation of Consciousness: Jung's Myth for Modern Man.
http://tinyurl.com/lwe5vf
John

Tucson

I spent the last five years in Tucson. In my first week there, I had a dream that was strange, I was lying in bed and it was like I was looking through the walls up over the Catalina Mountains north of town, and somewhere at the peaks or jut a little behind I saw small figures holding tumbleweeds in their hands and dancing, and I could hear faint drumming, it was really almost a threshold of awakening dream, it was like I was lying there in bed actually looking at this. I felt like I was being welcomed.

But that was a really difficult place for me. Tucson is beautiful, well the desert is anyway, but people have really destroyed the environment there. The water table has dropped so much in the last 50 years or so that there is hardly a drop of water above ground where there used to be rivers and small lakes. There is a strange dead feel in that area close to the city. The land feels sad.

I had hiked up into the Rincon Mountains east of town, and was sitting on a hill overlooking the city. It was evening and the light was slanting and it was very quiet. I heard a little noise below me, and I saw a roadrunner coming up the hill. I figured he would see me soon, and would go in a different direction. He did see me, and stopped, and looked at me from one side of his head and then the other, and then slowly approached, like he was checking me out. He actually came right up to me, not more than about five feet away. He opened his beak really wide and gave a really strange cry, not like anything I would expect to come from a bird, almost more like a cat sound. I felt like he was asking for help. This was not a dream but very dream-like.

I got deeply depressed at one point. At that time, I had a dream that a black tarantula crawled into my heart. It was not scary, but when I woke I knew it was bad. Later, after getting some help from some wise and kind people, I had another dream that I was in this room and the spider was running away. Someone who I couldn't see was directing me, to get it, don't let it get away! And I had a brick that had a smiling face on it and I smashed it. It was really, really gross. But when I woke up, I felt much better.

I'm living in North Florida right now, which is an amazingly beautiful place. Life energy here is so strong, it's like it's bursting.

I too spent several years in

I too spent several years in Tucson and found it to be a very strange, challenging place. I definitely hear about the "dead" quality to the land and even the people there.

That being said, I had a number of transformative, powerful spiritual experiences there. As did a number of people I knew there. In many ways, Tucson seems to be a charnel ground that is something of a karmic/spiritual accelerator.

Overall, I got the sense that the local spirits/nature beings are really pissed about how the place is being treated especially around water.

While I didn't have this in a dream, I did have a visionary experience in which I was shown that Tucson is a place that powerful "negative" spirits dwell. But these "negative" spirits are a normal, powerful part of the cosmos. We just aren't really supposed to live with them. They need their special places to be in order to fulfill their purpose.

Finally, I did have a number of powerful dreams in and around Tucson that reflected the "dead" feeling, but also found that some of the dreams I had there were just as powerfully uplifting or transformative.

"The wilderness holds all truth and knowledge."
Ingwe

dream-time-place

Elaborating on pathfinder's comment, I think there may be many places that act as Karmic/spiritual accelerators. When I was living on St. John, the ancestral and spiritual homeland of the Taino indians, I felt my awareness raised to an almost unbearable state within days of my arrival. The moon cycle was reflected very clearly in the actions of the island's people, it felt like a small-scale, localized collective mind, the connection between the locals peaking with the full moon, like a cosmic bacchanal, and ebbing toward the new moon. Synchronicities abounded in my daily interactions and my dreams, my partner at the time was-- and still is-- an intense lucid dreamer. Since our meeting there, our paths have parted ways, but often times I will meet with her in my dreams, and within two days I will receive a call from her, telling me news of her dream in which I appeared. I also had an experience, during a psylocybin trip, where "negative spirits," who I now see to be the spirits of the pre-columbian Taino cheifs whose petroglyphs I was sitting beside, turned my recreation into a journey deep in to myself and to a realization of the vast cosmic forces at work in our world and more subtle levels of reality, they essentialy offered me a warning, told me I must discover a better way. My experiences on St. John left me stuck in dream-time for over two years, and have led me to discover my true path, there are indeed powerful spiritual accelerators around the globe, whether they be places or dreams.

Thank you...

...Pathfinder and (?). It's really fascinating to have your feedback. Pathfinder, I hear what you're saying about Tucson being a charnel ground. I follow the Tibetan Buddhist tradition and for certain forms of practice, charnel grounds specifically are what you need. Also, like you, I met people there who I will remember forever. Tucson forced me to grow, and I am grateful to the place and for the opportunity.

(?), I had an experience with dreaming where I had a difficult relationship with someone at work, and we met in a dream. She was a beautiful younger person, and in the dream, I showed my love and respect for her by gently putting her hands together in a praying position and kissing them. After that, in the waking world our relationship changed completely, her attitude towards me was completely different. I know she also experienced it, though we never talked about it.

Although this dream does not

Although this dream does not directly relate to the dreams of my last post, it did occur while I was living on St. John.

I was a ball of light, moving at an incredible speed only about a foot off the ground, following a dirt road through a mountainous jungle. There were no obstructions in my way, no vehicles of any kind. I continued to move at break-neck speed through the jungle until the road took a sharp 90 degree turn. At this point I continued forward at high speed, but instead of following the road I sped along a gently upward valley and was catapulted in to the sky, where I was no longer a ball of light, but had merged with the sky.

The implications of this dream still perplex and haunt me.