Phils fan tazed for running on field
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Just want to get some of your thoughts on this issue. I spoke about this with my wife the other night, when I went to work the next day and listened to some of the conversations my coworkers were having I realized that our thoughts didn't really jive with the "general population". So, I am just curious what the Philly Evolver community, or anyone else for that matter thinks about this story
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Tazed fan got the media attention he was begging for
I don't see what the big deal is. So he got tazed. Better than getting tackled and beaten with nightsticks, like they would've done fifty years ago. Did he expect them to hoist him up on their shoulders and parade him around like a hero?
I'm appalled at tazer police brutality when it's genuine. Like tazing an autistic child, a pregnant woman or an old lady. All of which have happened. But a hormonally overactive teenaged boy acting like a clown? Being chased by a bunch of middle-aged men who could have sustained injuries or heart attacks in the chase? Fair game.
Running on the field
It's always tough on the people when the man flexes his muscles. But the fact is, there are rules, most of them pretty easy to abide by, and this chump decided that the attention garnered by running onto the field was worth the consequences of breaking the rule. I mean, you really have to consider this kid's motives, and wonder how celebrity and attention-whoring has spun out of control into a need that is satiated at any costs. Now, if the kid ran onto the field holding up a sign reading "expand your minds", "free tibet", "ahmedinejhad is a loony and the rest of the free world should a stop his fear mongering and chest banging", that'd be a different story.
In terms of the tasing. WTF? How about hiring some folks to work security who can catch a 17-year old kid in an open field? The fact that it came down to having to tase the kid is ridiculous. What ever happened to getting a little dirty on the job? I feel like if I was working security, the Taser would be the absolute last option. As a member of the security personnel, I would take pride in being able to do my job the old-fashioned way, without using excessive force.
I think it's an interesting microcosm of some of our culture's biggest problems. First, people feel like the only way they can actualize themselves is by being seen by as many people as possible, regardless of the context in which they are seen, or by being seen with people who are seen by lots of people. What are we not giving our children that makes them grow up to be so desperate for recognition by the world? And, second, the fact that a guy can't just do his job, and has to resort to a machine to do it for him, is just like people's aversion toward labor. It's a point of pride these days not to know how to fix a sink or a hole in the wall, because not knowing how means that you've "arrived" and you don't have to know how. And that overall microcosm IS somewhat the opposite of the way that we think about the world. In the evolved consciousness, recognition and affirmation of the ego by other egos and culture is not necessary. And from a practical standpoint, the work involved in supporting that new consciousness (permaculture, innovation, DIY) is what we are all trying to work toward. Thoughts?
Not to beat it to death but...
How about the idiot who ran onto the field the very next night? Twice as old as the teen, yet he didn't have the sense to remove the marijuana he was carrying from his pocket before he ran onto the field?
D-E-V-O!
Not to beat it to death but...
How about the idiot who ran onto the field the very next night? Twice as old as the teen, yet he didn't have the sense to remove the marijuana he was carrying from his pocket before he ran onto the field?
Busted.
D-E-V-O!
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The kid was just running around on a big stretch of grass, not brandishing a gun threatening to gun down Ryan Howard. To taze him seems to me like an unnecessarily aggressive, but somehow unsurprisingly status quo, Philly response. Don't violate the sacred Phillies game, or there will be consequences.
You've convinced me, I've changed my mind
You are right and I was wrong.
Hitting a healthy athletic 17-year-old with a micro-second jolt of electricity to paralyze his muscles causing him to drop to the turf was much too harsh. In fact, they shouldn't have even chased him, as that was probably too traumatic for him as well.
What they should have done was ignore him and let him run around showing off until he got bored and stopped on his own. Then they could have gently taken him into custody, and handed him a bill for all the stadium employees' salaries for the extra time added to their shifts, for the thousands of watts of power used to light up his Johnny Knoxville moment (screw the impact on the environment, it was a fun moment!), and the ticket refunds to any Phillies-loving "barbarians" who chose to leave because they had to get up for work the next day.
And if the security crew lost their jobs for failing to subdue him, they could have sued him as well. It would have been so much more civilized.
And the nerve of his own mother apologizing for his behavior! What's up with that?
troll topic. i was almost
troll topic. i was almost trolled successfully into a serious response.
Right back at ya
...and an equally trollish response. Thanks for keeping your serious thoughts to yourself.








