How are you preparing?

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March 3, 2009

I am becoming increasingly concerned that we will see a breakdown of supply lines in the US starting this summer. At a certain point, the tailspin of our economic system should lead to foriegn investors no longer propping up the US currency. At that point, basic necessities may become hard to find. I am wondering if people are feeling that this might be the case (it is also possible we have another 6 months - 2 years before things become critical, or perhaps a miracle escape hatch will be found), and what they are doing in preparation? I would love to hear tips and ideas, especially for vulnerable urban dwellers.

 Another question is how do we explain that this is possible to family members and others who refuse to consider that the immediate future may look totally different than what they have been expecting? 

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Optimistic Possibility?

Anna
I feel like, when the collapse actually happens, we'll all somehow know where to go and what to do... everyone will find each other and be able to survive and enact change. Miracles happen.
But, I'm looking into sustainable farms and communities near me. I'm afraid that these places may become like refugee camps and eventually they'll have to turn people down. I'm trying to convince my family to have an apocalyptic water and food supply- dried fruits, whole grains, etc. Enough to last for several weeks, at least.
The thing that I'm most worried about is that, when all of this happens, the government is sure to declare martial law and gather us up into modern-day concentration camps. How do we prevent them from taking us? Do we hide? Fight? Send them love and hope for the best? Scary times.
Also, Daniel, it's really painful when family members simply won't hear of a revolution such as this. My mother was convinced after I projected the economy to crumble in September and it did, but now she believes that Obama will fix everything. My father doesn't believe that anything's going to happen. I hope that they'll take their blinders off and see the corrupt world with open eyes, but until then, I just keep pointing out how unsustainable our society is... and incorporating them into my escape plans.
Lastly, I believe that, as society falls, our consciousness will rise. Perhaps when cell phones and internet stop working, we'll spontaneously develop astral travel or mind-reading abilities. To prepare for this, we must stay in the Love- any little snicker of Fear existing in our psyches will taint our otherworldly abilities. We have powers unknown to those who stand against us.

I too struggle to convince

I too struggle to convince my parents to take steps to prepare ... we have a large house out in the country, which could easily become self-sufficient food-wise if we but took the effort but, my parents love their lawn too much.

Concentration camps are a very real danger, I feel. Perhaps we'll avoid it ... I don't know how. Perhaps it won't be so bad, up here in Canada ... then again it could well be worse.

Then again it seems sometimes like telepathy is just around the corner....

Archaic Revivalist

*Growing/Gathering/Building Your Own
Learning permaculture, gardening, greenhouse, wild edible plants, mycoremediation, passive solar, sustainability etc

*Maximizing Nutrients
Going further with less input; raw foods, vegan, learning nutrition, plant diets etc (note: raw food diet benefits from no electricity...)

*Integrating Indigenous
Working/living/exploring with indigenous peoples in the jungle; hunting, gathering, making things with leaves and trees (shelters, leaf-backpacks etc) living/thriving with no "money", trade/barter, relationship with nature, plants, animals. Learning all the amazing things one can accomplish with a machete...

*Welcoming the Chaos
Breakdown or breakthrough? Tuff choice, but it's up to you.

*Evolving Perspective
Sharing optimism, positive thinking, clear thinking - these things breed healthy worlds.

*What Me Worry?
Know the ledge, sure, but don't jump off it. In other words: the sky is not falling - but maybe you're just floating up into space. It's the fat, greasy, unstable-unsustainable operating system that's crashing. Don't get crushed by falling debris. Step aside. Run for uncovering.

*Eco-operation
Be serious and disciplined regarding eco-friendly choices & practices. Do the research. Don't let things slide. Do not waste anything! Share!

*Who's in charge here?
I thought you were?? - Don't wait around for answers. Create your own answers and get your hands dirty, really dirty.

*Creation Myths

Get creative; paint, draw, make music, sculpt - in many ways. This is a wild time - let the whole thing flow through and feedback.

*Spirit Worlds
Shamanism is just the front door. There's a whole, holistic, wild and alive, seriously serious world of spirits - and they're beating down that front door. Coming soon to a theatre within you, without you, surrounding you, devouring you.

..for starters

I think Archaic Revivalist said it all & best!

The hardest part is the dedication to change the way we live. People are so comfortable, they cant imagine life without money. But when it is taken from them or the economy has really fallen then they will either breakdown or breakthrough. The ones who have already broken through will hopefully be there to help those who are truly ready to make the change and dont know where to start, kind of like we are all doing now. :-)

Become intimate with ourselves, others, and mother earth!
"We are the Divine Light that shines infinitely."
Brandy Sarasvati

Good stuff :) One thing

Good stuff :)

One thing I've been planning to do recently is get a keep-fit electricity generator. - just an old style exercise bike, with a generator on the fly wheel. Easy enough to rig up it seems, and hey presto, I can still power my widescreen plasma tv.

Chickens too, been thinking about that. I made a decision to move out of town and grow veggies, I give away any surplus. I volunteer for a local sustainable charity, use Freecycle, joined Evolver, working on the tricky old ego-freedom thing too (aurobindo, gebser, kabbalah), and getting fit and drinking cats claw to strengthen the immune system etc - just be the change you want to see i suppose.

Hopefully it won't all be neccessary, but its fun nonetheless

(PS I don't really have a widescreen plasma tv)

In wildness is the preservation of the world - Thoreau

Keep-fit electricity

Keep-fit electricity generator...GENIUS! Can't believe I've never heard of that...Thanks!

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world."
Mahatma Gandhi

During the ice storm - what,

During the ice storm - what, 8 years ago? - my elementary school gym teacher had a rig like that. His family took shifts on it and they were one of the only houses in the area with power.

one big thing that i'd

one big thing that i'd recommend is getting heirloom seeds. specifically heirloom seeds! these have no genetic modification and are the "old school" seeds that haven't been bred for the grocery store look. most seeds you buy in the store are weak and monkied with, heirlooms are worth the extra money you'll spend on them, and if you find the right place you won't even spend much more.
other than that, learn as many fabrication and repair skills you can. when you can't buy your stuff at wal-mart you'll need to make do, and being good at that is a good skill for barter with others. just consider how useful it will be if you're the only one in your community that can make/repair tools and such, you've become irreplaceable. just share the knowledge while you're at it. ;)
as for convincing people that won't listen, there's not much you can do. in my experience hand them what you've said that's come true and tell them outright what's coming. don't sensationalize or anything, but if you're dead on all the time and they still won't listen, then they never will.

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Heirloom seeds are a must!

Heirloom seeds are a must! Without them, you only have one crop.

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world."
Mahatma Gandhi

When the shit hits the fan I am running straight for the fan...

... and starting cleanup/relief as best I can.

I like all these ideas and am either doing or planning on many of them.

One that i haven't see and that would work, here in my town anyway, is to get in touch with and train with the city and county emergency responders. It is very practical and can keep you in the loop of what is going down. This may not be for everybody, but the more we are informed and out there helping people the better, I think.

I have

I have planted a garden, I have a hen, and have learned enough primitive survival to know that food is all around me (something like 95% of your yard is edible...grass (leaves, seeds, and roots), dandelions (roots, leaves, flowers), field plantains (roots, leaves), clover (flowers, leaves, roots). Any pinetrees (inner bark, seeds from pinecones, needles can be used to make a tea), or oak trees (acorns, mostly...a handful has equivalent nutrition to about a pound of hamburger meat. You have to boil them in about 3 changes of water to be rid of the tannic acid. Save the water, though, as it is a powerful antisceptic for wounds or even mouthwash).

I keep trying to slide stuff in with my neighbors, but no dice as yet.... I have learned enough so that myself and anyone near me will be okay...but I haven't been able to spread it very far other than that. =(

"You must *be* the change you wish to see in the world."
Mahatma Gandhi

I sure don't want to have a net put over me

I believe in being active in preparing my community and my home without mentioning 2012 or the possibility of a breakdown. Right now I'm helping organize a community garden network in my community and I'm growing my own food at home. When I explain to people in the general public why getting involved with it is important I give the following reasons; cutting down on oil dependency, strengthening the community, bringing life into the community, cutting down food costs for struggling families, and general economic development. I don't tell them; society may collapse any day now, the government may be planning world war III therefore we should build victory gardens, and I certainly don’t tell people that we are approaching the end of time. I find that people in my community, my family, my friends, all believe that no big change is coming and everything is going back to normal (it's all just part of the business cycle). People just don’t want to face it. And since they don't want to face it they sort of roll away from a conversation of societal collapse when it comes up. And I think that in order to be taken seriously by people who can contribute huge to the project; maybe it’s best to leave conspiracy theories at home.
The point that I'm trying to make is that we shouldn’t make the reason for change be a hypothetical future event. In order to make real change happen (i.e. a very successful community gardening program) the focus should be put on how anyone can benefit this year from being a part of a transition project. Many people need to get on board with this. In order to make it appealing to several different types of people one should provide reasons for why change is necessary that would make any right-wing-asshole, or blind-bat want to be a part of making change happen. It’s sort of like I’m acting casual about what’s going on but deep down inside I truly believe that we are in for an economic revolution/ political revolution/ spiritual revolution and so on. By getting people involved with the community gardening program they are building societies safety net and they are a part of the transition whether they see it or not. From what I see people want to act like nothing is wrong, I say, let them think that way for now and when the shit hits the fan it will get harder to ignore things. Just cross that bridge when you get to it and hopefully by then if enough people have helped out we will all have a bridge to cross.
This outlook that I am living by and these ideas that I have is something that I struggle with everyday. There is no simple answer for how to think, what to do, and how to react in these interesting times. But I’m sure that this path I'm on that people call "optimism and hope" is the best place to be in the world.

God Bless

chyaa

godamnit man amen a-fucking-men, don't prepare because the aliens are coming on 2012, prepare because all of the steps we're talking about here are the steps needed in order to create resilient communities which can provide for themselves, and they are the steps necessary to create a sustainable future economy and they are the steps necessary to get off your TVs and out of your fantasy lands and live within the real world. amen

Remembering Our Dependency on Nature

Its like waking up. The system most of us were raised in lulled us to sleep. On a deep level most forgot their natural connection to and dependency on the cycles of nature. Now the alarms going off and not everybody is stirring and some are hitting snooze. We can shake them a little but still they are responsible for getting up. Maybe when the house starts burning you could slap them, but that is a personal choice.

I like stump grinding's idea of activation without indoctrination, and when people are open, sharing as much as they can use.

As a general strategy I think its best to live close to the cycles of nature and have a sacred relationship with your food, medicine, and Earth Mother regardless of the health of the system.

Preparations at my place looks like this so far:

Seeds- we collect them, honor them, plant them, share them, sell them, trade them.

Plants- We are growing many varieties of food and medicine. There is 100 healthy young tomato plants in my kitchen right now, chamomile sprouting in abundance out back, peppers etc. (Cayenne is an awesome medicine that I put in everything I can and you can squirt some, in water, up your nose when your sick or use a tincture to bring someone out of a heart attack.)

Also my partner can walk through any woods in the area and pick out what we can and can't eat, and we collect and grow as many medicinal herbs as we can.

Water- We have 25 gallons delivered every month in reusable containers from Vermont Pure. It could probably last about three months if rationed.

Yerba Mate- A wonderful plant from South America that we carry in our health office, was found by the Peace Corp to be supporting the health of native people during times of scarcity when most had to live on one meal a day. It has more health benefits than just about anything I've come across and can be brewed in any temperature water in about 10miutes. We currently have about 15lbs of Mate in stock.

Pantry- We try to keep a stocked pantry of cans and jars of various foods. Most of which come from the dollar store. As much as we like to eat the best fresh organics, when your starving its not going to matter. Jars of gravy, it lasts and can make roots, bark, and even your shoes more palatable.

Chocolate- We have a case of organic fair trade candy bars. When times are tough every little luxury can be a sanity saver, and their profits all go to support the Huichol's cultural heritage.

We're hoping to stock up on some Hemp Milk, coffee, fire wood, can openers, candles, matches and lighters, recycled paper products, rags (for when the toilet paper runs out:), etc.

We live in a semi-urban area without a lot of growing space, so we supplement by foraging in the many natural areas surrounding the Capital District here in "upstate" NY.

When it will it happen -

I've been amazed at this group's (reality Sandwich contributors and members) engagement and insight into a coming meltdown. I'm terrible when it comes to preparation, and that's one impetus for me to come here and try to educate myself and find other like-minded people who might see this "meltdown" as an opportunity.

As far as the timing of breakdown of supply lines etc. I certainly don't know, but I am of a similar mind to Charles Eisenstein (sp?). When a run to the exits on the dollar is precipitated (tipping point being the Chinese divesting of their U.S. denominated holdings), the dollar is finished, which is the end of U.S. dollar hegemony, and by extension the lone superpower status of the U.S. in the world.

But I think the concern is truly peak oil, and peak everything that the burgeoning human population needs that is not elastic in supply. It's important to note that we got a taste of this prior to the "meltdown" culminating when the Treasury secretary and Fed Chairman allowed Lehman bros. to collapse in Sept. We were seeing supply breakdowns in oil supply in Georgia here in the U.S. and food supply around the world was severely constrained (due in large part to biofuel production expansion in the U.S.) When one considers the trillions of dollars being pumped into the system from thin air via "helicopter Ben" to prevent the unwinding of the credit expansion of the last 20+ years, it is inevitable that we will again see worldwide inflation that will be very difficult. This dovetails with constrained supply of oil (see International Energy Agency's recent report predicting 9% annual decline in supply globally next year), making it even more expensive and almost unworkable for our highly mobile society in dollar terms.

Not to ramble here, but the two biggest spectres for paradigm altering events are the end of U.S. Dollar hegemony and Peak Oil. However, while I'm unaware of what plan exists, I am certain that the Fed Chairman has a clear view of what he's doing (simply put, it was a policy decision to not allow another great depression) he chose between Scylla and Charybdis, so now we go over the waterfall of hyperinflation. Then what? Issue the "new Dollar"? Amero, something else? It is disrupting to be sure to experience a hyperinflation but it's not the end, something new evolves. Far more radical to my mind is the need to create an energy infrastructure that replaces hydrocarbons overnight. This one two punch could create the right mixture for some very radical change. There will certainly be a transfer of wealth as history teaches us, but the vision of the post hydro-carbon fueled world is in embryo. It seems important to me to think of how communities can develop in response. Social networks like these seem essential in that regard.

Then there's the escape hatch...Some breakthrough like zero point energy, or Mckenna's end of history or transcendent moment? We can hope. There is certainly apparently ample evidence that could lead one to extreme views of hope and also pessimism...what arises from this tension? Seems something must be born...

"I wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't believed it."

Breakthrough.

I don't claim to know a thing about how the economy works. I presume now is the time to research and learn. All of this seems very abstract to me - the supply lines cutting off. My mind is a flipbook with only two scenes:

1.) Supplies become harder to obtain; food, gas, electricity prices all rise. There's no such thing as recreational travel anymore, or buying art, or investing in musical endeavors. But we are all surviving.

2.) Apocalyptic-sized changes. Many of us living in the mountains, woods, and valleys, hunting and growing our own food. The dollar disappears. The internet crumbles. All levels of American infrastructure are no more.

I am very ill-prepared. This Winter I bought the book "How To Stay Alive in the Woods"...I began reading it but became sidetracked by academia (silly). I do however know that I want our current system to fail. And I want to live to see it.

I must begin preparation.
See you on the other side? :)

It's not all guns and bunkers

I've been prepping for some time now and I'd suggest that, when things start to collapse, it won't be one big bang but slowly, a little bit at a time. Survivalism can have a bit of a bad name - thoughts of militias armed to the teeth, sitting in their bunkers, but it's not actually like that.

Start out simple - think of the most basic thinks you need. For instance, what do you have one you, at this very moment in time? I've got a little swiss army knife in my pocket - use it all the time. Also got a little torch on my keyring. Need glasses to read, but I've got a little fresnel magnifier in with my credit cards.

Got a torch in the car or a first aid kit? Do you know how to use a first aid kit. Spare jacket in the car?

Do all the basics first, then think on a slightly larger timescale. How much food have you got in the house? Enough for a day, 3 days, a week? Got anything to store water in? ( I asked a friend this - turns out they didn't even own a bucket)

Over time I've built up a small solar power system. Not enough to run the house, but enough to give us some light if the power goes out, recharge the mobiles, run the freezer for a few days. Also got about a weeks worth of dried food (pasta etc) stored away. Won't keep us going forever, but should be enough a gap.

Prepare one step at a time.

WWOOF

Well right now I am living in a major american city pointlessly attending college but I've decided to leave school after this semester and jump into the world of sustainable living via WWOOF (worldwide opportunities for organic farmers). There are thousands of farms throughout the world that you can get into contact via this organization where you can work and in exchange for working there you have a place to live, free food, and a wonderful learning and life experience. This is a great opportunity for anyone like me who is stuck in a major city and has no opportunities around to learn about sustainability and is wondering how to jump into the world of sustainable living.

WWOOF

I'm also a WWOOFer! Also check out IC.org for a list of intentional communities world wide.
Fantastic opportunity in communities everywhere.

Hey, thanks for that! I've

Hey, thanks for that! I've been looking for a way to get in touch with organic farmers. Especially as I'm at loose ends for the summer....

Simple Solutions for Overwhelming Problems

Now that I think about I have been relatively well prepared for the longest time...
Ever since I was young I've planted a backyard garden, a simple act which is ultimately one of the most significant things that can be done in these troubled times. Living in a boxed-up suburban neighbourhood the creation of community gardens has always seemed an unlikely prospect, but having a personal garden in one's back yard or on their patio is completely realistic and isn't strange in the least, infact it is a lovely thing that will be embraced by everyone who can enjoy it. Start small, grow for yourself and maybe your neighbours, you'll see how much of a difference it makes.

Cultivation of the World Mind...

and letting egoic tendency fall by the wayside.

I have a feeling the key is less about stockpiling resources{that's our current modality eh?} and more about relearning to co-operate , need little, give effortlessly and to form symbiotic relationships with each other.
Of course take care of your individual needs but don't hesistate to share with those around you. Have no fear of going hungry and cold. Feed and shelter those around you in need.
I have given and been given so much recently. It's beautiful! The more people know the world can be a giving, kind, and nuturing place the less angry hungry cold souls there will be and the more likely this is the outcome of the transition we are heading towards.

We are our greatest resource!

Open houses: http://www.couchsurfing.com/
Open travel: http://www.erideshare.com/
Open communities: http://www.wwoof.org/

Don't plan, Prepare

Well, I feel like I've been prepping for this all my life, and by good fortune this year I was able to buy land, where I can grow my own food, live alongside like minded people and draw upon two shallow wells where I can haul up my own water in a bucket should the lack of electricity make the pump defunct. I have worked in food security as well as in the open source community, so I have gone over different scenarios around these issues for the day when both these concepts will not be simply a luxury of thinking but a means to go forward.

This summer I am making ferro-cement cisterns for water catchment as well as filming simple living videos to share with others who may not have had the opportunity to practice planting their own food or living with no electricity - both of which I have done for extended periods. At the moment I am on the grid, and I would love to already have an alternative power source set-up here, but at this juncture it is not affordable. Thus I went and got a clarinet to provide some tunes when the power goes out and am getting a dehydrator for when the fridge doesn't work anymore.

good question.

clarityjones.com

Great discussion starter, Daniel

Prepping could include a little meditation and keen attention to the events/focus of ones life as well. I'm brushing up on my "Hero with a 1,000 Faces" - might this be a collective hero's trial?

For economic collapse, I offer this advice: spend all your dollars on real things before novemer 09. This is when the webbots say things'll deteriorate pretty fast, especially starting the 5th.

This would pertain to (death of) the dollar, Israel attacking Iran and sucking the U.S. into some sort of war, and lots of strange behavior and energy floating about.

Time to get that Pineal Gland cleared out and reved up!

Just found this thread...

I must admit, I myself am coming out of a period of energetic detente when it comes to these concerns. Last fall/winter was so emotionally draining for me, as I fully expected the hammer to fall around election time, that I allowed myself to backslide off my guard out of sheer exhaustion. I'm finally beginning to come back around to my wits and long-range goggles -- this time, without paranoia and fear guiding my hand.

That said, I haven't been watching television and eating bon bons for the last 4 months. My girl and I have started a garden in her backyard -- the first time I've ever grown anything more than a houseplant. Also, 95% of my energy has been focused on starting up a local community group that has become Evolver Atlanta, an endeavor that has truly galvanized a sense of local citizenship and cooperation that I'd never before known. We are striving to connect with like-minded meetup groups and organizations.

I'm not so naive that I think this alone will be enough to weather an abrupt collapse of global trade -- but it still feels like a positive action we're taking, especially when the message of our events forces people to grapple with these difficult scenarios.

As a case in point, and as a direct answer to Daniel's last question about how to educate our friends and family -- I would encourage everyone to view Chris Martenson's "Crash Course" presentation at www.chrismartenson.com. It is designed as a paradigm-busting teaching aid to prepare people -- both intellectually and practically -- for a very near future that is radically different than the world we've known. Hence the heavy tagline: "The next 20 years will be completely unlike the last 20 years."

if you're planning an Evolver Regional in your hometown -- or you just want to casually drop some life-saving knowledge on your loved ones -- check out the Crash Course and plan a screening event. Here's the link to our upcoming viewing event, this Saturday April 25th. I am very excited for it, and I'll report back with how it went...

http://www.evolver.net/event/2009/04/25/crash_course_hits_atlanta

Finally, here's the best website I've come across for disaster/collapse preparedness:
www.getpandemicready.org

-st

Educating myself and friends...

I just subscribed to Wilderness Way magazine hoping that I will learn a thing or 2 about living off of the land. Also saving organic heirloom seeds and teaching the youngsters in my family how to garden so they will be prepared. (canning foods/drying foods) I am getting books on local wild edibles/medicinal herbs and trying to learn them. I wish there was a class in the Fargo/Moorhead area for edibles around here and in Minnesota. I remember going to a wild edible class @ the state park w/my mother when I was a kid. What happened to the classes??? Also gradnparents have a great farmstead w/log cabin and wood stove. If anything happened my entire family would make it there to hopefully live. Wishing I knew of more people in the FM Area interested in this and evolver.net. Let me know if your out there!!! Also knowing how to stay calm and happy during chaos is a must!!! "I have not yet encountered a temple as blissful as my own body." ---- SAHARA"

Some interesting sites

http://survivingthemiddleclasscrash.wordpress.com/
http://www.rhizomecollective.org/rustmanual (the one that really caught my eye here was asphalt removal - something our cities are drenched in and suspect if we got to the point of needing to plant things in our cities - asphalt removal may be a very practical "something" to know how to do).

The Mother of All

Reading the above comments in response to Daniel's suggestive query I fear that, at this late date, only 2 or 3 in 20-30 people (@10%) have a clue as to what might best serve them. And this is a sample taken from a population of people who are seriously considering the possibilities! As a percentage of the global population they (Eureka, Colin, et al.) would have lots of room left over on the head of a pin.

If we are truly anticipating the Mother of all Paradigm Shifts sometime in the next 6 months to 4 years it is unlikely that gardens and a water supply will play much of a role, depending on the rate of change. If electricity and water suddenly stop flowing, food and fuel supplies stop being delivered and money becomes meaningless overnight, the chaos will be overwhelming. If you boil the water gently enough, a lot of the frogs won't notice (but they will still die in earnest).

In any case, to say that "the immediate future may look totally different than what they have been expecting" barely hints at the magnitude of the question. There are very few people, no matter how excellent their education, who are able to even think about quantum mechanics - it requires a 'language' they simply don't know. You can speak as slowly and clearly as you want and they still won't be able to understand. Asking someone to prepare for a future that cannot be imagined is equally incomprehensible to them.

For myself, I'm hoping to find someone in my vicinity that I can 'tag along' with, because although I think I grasp the concept I know that I haven't mastered the tools I would need to succeed in the transition to... whatever. But I sure do want to be present for the main event.

Hope alone?

Some say we will know what to do, others say we need to re-structure our way of working and organizing in order to thrive once it all comes crashing down. We have seen it in the past and throughout various civilizations; Once change is instructed ,and the system these peoples have known for centuries if not longer ceases to be they are nothing short of lost. Some cannot handle it and turn to complete dis-order based on the weak concepts they had that are thus shattered and obliterated. Or if they were strong enough, no-one was left to withhold any standards or keep any tradition to maintain it all together.
But I like to think we as a species have a bit more of common sense and perhaps we have learnt from past mistakes, otherwise we are bound to repeat them by falling into the same debauchery and mindlessness others before us did.

But not only we have to acknowledge our preceding history; Which in a way shapes the machinations of our modern world, but also our now and how each and every one of us influences that now. Unfortunately, as it has been previously said, many American families as well as groups world-wide will be faced with the challenge of not knowing what to do when that final...or semi-final trial comes. This is not just a test one studies for; Or a set of answers one can just check off with a pencil and erase as one sees fit.

We only have our hopes...though we cannot live on hope alone - without it life would not be worth living.((thanks, Harvey Milk)). We have our dreams and our gifts;Our abilities to use them and share them. It is all about unity and about letting others know in unique and mind-altering ways, by urging them to wake up and want to do something about it all. We may have many ideas, we just have to want to make them tangible.

We may reach to those closest to us; Those we trust and with the love we have always shown try and help them face the reality we shall be going through. Nothing lasts forever---specially a system such as this we have known for far too long. And many are accustomed; As the bird is to the cage and the feeling of having no wings. It is time to nudge some into awareness...with tenderness or firmness and with facts as cold as the machine they have placed themselves in;Wanting to be just another brick in the wall...?((Such a Pink Floyd moment ^_^))

Buona notte.
-Camilo

"Dare defy"

We are all going to die!!

...someday. Ha, and in the mean time what is melting down besides icy things is the belief in a system, a matrix born out of Babylonian obsessive worship of the planets. This whole trade system on Earth, based on papery inky things, some believe is money, is all linked to the nasty old clock. The clock's math, 60 minutes of 6 degrees of space, is an old celebration of the 60 year conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn which the Babylonians so loved. Here we are at the decline and fall of modern civilization and humans are still using this outdated planetary technology.
PREPARE for survival??? Prepare for a new world! The seeds of star people are here in the new children, there are more alien beings in and around this planet than any other time, telepathy is rampant, the unified field is about to be made public. This, my friends, is the time to practice high spirituality, the golden rule - the rainbow way. The meltdowns happening now are irreversable and Don't Panic is the first preparation.
Alas, melt we must. With a few solar flares. And the melt down is what will trigger a higher order of organization in human affairs. Spontaneously!
Prepare? We are going to the 4th dimension and then quickly to the 5th. Soon. Prepare?
Yes save heirloom seeds and store electricity in your spare tire and have clean water for children and find out which totem animal best suits you. But be prepared to leave behind this nightmare called Post-modern Babylonian civilization. Be prepared to burn paper money and leave the token coins at the steps of the courthouses. Be prepared for a reality beyond the wildest sci-fi movies. Prepare by seeing all others as aspect of yourself.

right on

I agree with you brother!

"We are the Divine Light that shines infinitely."
Brandy Sarasvati

Preparing for what Daniel?

The real question may be... why prepare for anything? When no one really has any idea what future we may "attract", why not just go with the flow, assume that it's ALL good, and enjoy the RIDE! When we really begin to understand that "This too shall pass..."

Keep the head broke open,

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.â€

Philip K. Dick

O SHIT WHAT NOW

I listened in on behlalf of Stephinity during the Teleconference on Thursday with Carmen Mauk. I love all of the ideas that were brought to light and the many avenues it creates for consciousness. To me I truly believe that the intention of our hearts alone is what brings about the shift. I can sit here and plan all I want, and I am, but with an open mind and unconditional love in my heart for that which is going to happen that I ultimately have no control over. The main thing anyone can do to prepare theirselves for what is to come is to just be a compassionate person & truly understand the power of unconditional love. We are "Crossing the Event Horizon" soon and there are many theories on what may or may not happen. One thing I do hold true to myself is that along with the change of our planet there is a change in everything *physical, Subtle (mind, intellect, ego) & spiritual* Even the structure of our DNA is changing as new life begins on this planet every minute every second. I believe 2012 is the gateway for which people who are ready and willing and are proving to the Universe that they have what it takes will experience something so blissful as we cross the event horizon that it will raise their frequency to that of higher vibrations in light. We will still have physical form but all of our particles will be vibrating at a frequency others may not be able to detect There will be a new earth, a new higher experience in life iteself, and this will continue until the planet itself reaches christ consciousness.

You already may see it and experience it happening now. Everything we do matters, everything is INFINITE anyways, so it is not what happens in the outcome of this life that matters, it is our intentions for ourselves and the intention for others & this planet that ultimately curve consciousness. The hundreth human syndrome. Life is but a pattern of the ultimate creator learning and evolving itself though fundamental divsion and sacred geometry. We are just an experience of the creator itself divided to individual standpoints & views on this life.

"We are the Divine Light that shines infinitely."
Brandy Sarasvati

Being prepared

Waterlily I live in an urban enviorment and lots of empty lots so I decided to make victory gardens. my neighbors just walk by and watch me and some comment i respond by inviting them to be a part of it. no one has come back yet, i live in a very poor part of a city and there just not use to see empty lots being used for gardens. mostly there used for old tires and trash. Well we took the old tires and filled them with dirt and planted potato and beets and pumpkins. Can't wait to see the looks on there faces when I start to cook this stuff out in the garden straight from the vine.
I'll keep you all updated on the results, I hope to inspire these folks to get busy preparing but first they must see others doing it.
I have also a fifty gallon rain water container, storing rain water rather then plastic containers.

we've got to get back to the Garden

I believe all of our economic hardship, through dependency on corporations and upper class land owners for the basic necessities of life, should be looked at through karmic lenses. By participating in a system that produces so much pollution/destruction, exploitation and oppression perhaps having that fragile dependency cut, or at least greatly (and harshly) reduced, is what we need in order to understand how far from a Natural way of living we've come to. Business as usual is unsustainable and is against core ideals like personal freedom, good health, social-justice, equality, etc.
And since it ultimately comes down to access to the land, since the Earth is the source of all of our necessities, practically this means land-reform (as done in Kerala, India and with the Landless Workers movement in Brazil) along with zero-interest government loans for lower-class land ownership, living in the healthiest & most sustainable way, which concerning the basic necessities means small-scale veganic gardening/farming, green building, and use of composting/humanure (it was meant to help grow our food, not be sent to treatment plants using scarce fresh water!), seed-saving, preserving... The more you look into the facts of human physiology and ecology the more veganic is seen to be the solution, enslaving and killing animals unnecessarily is probably the most karmicly devastating practice that we ignorantly participate in due to the environmental & physical harm it causes, in order to get back to a relationship with Divintiy/Nature (back to the Garden) this appears to be a necessity, so the quicker this is realized by the masses the better.
So a combination of a social/economic justice movement along with the personal life changes of living in a much simpler (less consumption/material possessions) and less harmful way (veganic diet) appears to be the most effective path for us right now.
Peace

I agree

I agree with you styagrahi, and in my own personal experience, living a simpler life, with little or no luxuries has led me to be an outkast, a status I don't mind, because I have the good company of a few like minded individuals, but I think a big reason many people are afraid to move toward a more simple existence is because they feel they won't fit in, if only they had the insight to see that simplicity is the key, and that quite likely in the near future our infrastructure will crumble and all their devices of high culture and technology will be rendered useless to them. How many times have you heard someone say, " I don't know what to do when I don't have my cellphone," or, "I can't LIVE without my phone?" As most of us here on evolver would agree, this is certainly not the case, and in my own experience in the past when not having a cell phone, I always felt more at ease, and a closer connection to the earth, perhaps the telephone is a precursor to telepathic communication, a realization of our innate desire to want to be able to communicate with people across great distances. But i digress, I enjoyed reading all of these postings, and they have helped encourage me to find my center, stay positive, and get back to the core of my being, simplicity. Thank you all.

"Simplify, Simplify." -- Henry David Thoreau

I think that there is good

I think that there is good possibility that you are right. My own life is simple in comparison to many. But, I have to say that I am not ready for this. It means more than growing a summer garden. Of course we will have to give up our computers and cell phones.

But for too long we have practiced the equivalent of deficit spending with the earths resources. We have forgotten the debt that we owe our Mother Earth thinking that we can control life itself. I would like to say that we have learned, but sometimes I am not so sure what.

There is a rewinding movement afoot. This is good. We all need to move in that direction whether we face a collapse now or later.

please do not buy guns to prepare...

Here on Evolver we usually lean towards the bright side of things so I had been avoiding this subject in the hopes that our collective positive energy would help the world rise above any oncoming disasters.

That being said, it is very difficult to ignore the high number of signs pointing towards a crisis. I worked in banking for 8 years and one of my most experienced colleagues told me once that, "If the system collapses, the public won't even know until they go to use the atm. They will just lock the doors at all the bank branches and let people deal with it."

That freaked me out so I have been trying to learn as much as I can by buying helpful books at yard sales and taking a really good multivitamin as well as eating a much healthier diet. I also cut down my alcohol intake and quit drinking coffee. The less addictions we have to feed the easier it will be.

For sometime I thought of arming myself but that would only feed into the negative energy that is out there and if one is on the right path then weaponry is unnecessary.

We are turning off the cable and planning to move towards a forest area in the next two months. Right now we live in Oakland and it might not be the best place to survive in an economic meltdown.

I encourage people to read The Road by Cormac McCarthy and Farnhams Freehold by Robert Heinlein for some interesting reading on this subject matter.

I have to say that Evolver is helping us prepare by connecting us to each other. I have learned so much from all of your blogs and I feel like this site has helped me tremendously.

Maybe as we continue to form together the unification will help shift the planet towards better days? I hope.

OH S#!T What Now? How to Thrive in an Uncertain Future

Chiming in again I want to offer a cool link towards my ideas posted above . . . http://burnerswithoutborders.com/prepare-to-thrive-in-whatever-may-come

As I said above, I am interested in adding emergency plans on large scales and burners without borders offers great logistics on how to accomplish this in your area.

A scary thought about being armed . . . A friend asked me what we will do about the State Penitentiary just outside of town. Do we have an emergency plan in place that will secure such places, should we? What should we do about Hospitals and places like that?

Peace,
Dionysios
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community buillding - Europe Czech Republic

We are preparing :-)

http://zonaremixeng.blogspot.com/ or http://www.zonaremix.cz/

good people are welcome :-)

Thanks for inspirations to Daniel Pinchbeck !!!!!!

Big Love ... Zdeněk

Sustainability and Alerting Others

A sustainability/think tank site that is just up recently and with which you might consider involvement:
http://futuredawningadmin.ning.com/ This group was put together by my friend, Mary Rose, who has spent a good portion of her life in consciousness/sustainability research and service. She worked for quite some time with Dr Vern Wolfe (http://www.holodynamics.com/---he'd be a great subject for your writing, an amazing man).

As to alerting others to the coming challenges in food supplies: I see it as a responsibility to calmly alert others to this---and I see it as coming very soon----yet it is clear that many are stuck in the old fears. My intent is to reach those who are receptive to listening, and to let those who are not live (or die) though the consequences of their decisions. I believe that both of these are at the heart of true compassion. The next few years are going see a lot of us kissing a lot of others goodbye, letting them be. My sense of it is that we are all best-served by touching the lives of those willing to be touched. We can lead others to water, but force-feeding just sucks everyone's energy.

BTW, Daniel, I truly appreciated your 2012 RoQ book. Thanks for so effectively being amongst the ranks of us "wake-up artists".

supergreen foods

You can buy these at whatever store is trying to give you the best the earth has to offer at the moment and they really do work. Add some to rice/hemp/soy milk with some bee pollen, flax oil and seed, psyllium and whatever else that tickles your fancy and you have yourself a little meal filled with explosive and satisfying nutrition. If your local Nice Food Store's version is too spendy, Trader Joes now offers 10.5 oz of comparable Supergreen Foods for $20. Lightweight and affordable. Trader Joes also offers a canister of Hemp Protein which would be wise to stock up on since hemp is the plant matter most easily assimillated into our human system with the most nutrition ever devised by the Gaian Mind.

Quinoa is another lightweight substance that is packed to the teeth with nutrition that will go further in the end than that huge bag of white rice over there in the corner. Perhaps through all of this we can learn that we really don't need to eat so much if what we eat is truly nutritious. In Lak'ech Ala K'in

The Road Not Taken has become more popular

This has been a wonderful thread to read ... especially as it moves over time.

My sympathies to us all as we try to get our minds around this time ... who we are ... and why we are here.

At the practical level, I began to regrasp the structure of "collapse" and profound cultural change as a youth. By the early 80's it began to feel more inevitable, because I had been a lifelong student of the human story. And if one attempts to study this wide spread of time and culture, the pattern of our time becomes more clear. History will likely ask, "Jeepers! Couldn't they see it coming?" Or, "Who the heck did they think they were?"

Anyway ... I began moving toward the edges of the culture decades ago as I found my way back to an indigenous point of view. I work in nature with forests and living systems. I live with my work.

Freedom from mortgage and other cultural traps has long been a goal. Thoreau and others, plus life experience have shown that simplicity and natural connection has ALWAYS been a prosperous, healthy and meaningful path.

So I take care of the biological basics: Warm and dry, water, food and community. Choosing to live where my heart called ... in the lush diversity of temperate forestlands ... has made all the difference. I have no paper wealth, no stocks or bonds or gold. I have access to and knowledge of a large natural land where the resident population possesses little clue to the natural resources everywhere around them. I live where the ratio of resource to population is highly favorable to anyone with basic native sense of a place. I have many things gold and paper cannot buy.

Shelter, water and food are free for the making. Why then grasp at a career that would require separation from what is free to do for oneself?

I invested in health, land and resources, and knowledge of how to live well with the Land. When the collapse began, and as it continues and crescendos, I have nothing personal on paper to lose. But I can feel the psychic shudder of the old form suddenly standing naked and dumbstruck like a deer in the bright headlights of a screaming semi.

I prepare by living my daily life in search of sanity. I make firewood for the future of warm and dry.

I chop wood and carry water.

And I build community connections. I share my surpluses with my neighbors without account, and receive treasures in return. My diet includes bread and wine, cheese and fruits of all descriptions and would cost a king's ransom if I tried to purchase such a diet. But it arises quietly and naturally out of our regional neighborhoods. I have invested in good neighbors and Friends.

I practice a form of Listening ... quieting and opening. My teacher is always all around me, and I've learned that really all I have to do is "show up" ... that is be present and awake. Nature communicates in a pattern language. Nothing magical here. Truly native or new native transformers will know this language. Shamans know it.

My circle is complete and today is a good day to die. With the fear of death behind, the natural playhouse opens. It seems all of Nature has been standing on its tiptoes straining to see how we will now respond. The first major obstacle is fear. So I tell my children mostly, "I don't know, but it seems to me we have come here to this time on purpose. We have a mission, and that mission cannot be realized or accomplished if we run in fear. We WILL be afraid ... of that we can all be certain. The trick will be to keep our balance, remember to breathe and relax ... and open to the other side of this collapse."

This is not just denial and happy thinking. If we obsess with the tsunami of collapse, it will consume us. Sort of like the biblical character of Lot. As he was turned and told to move away from the collapse and consumption of Sodom and Gomorrah he was instructed to "not look back". I suppose if he did, and if he fixed all his attention on the collapsing structures and institutions, he would freeze up and be consumed.

If you really want to come through this, make your connections and prepare to let go of everything you thought you knew. The real question is not how do we patch this mess, but how do we simply get out of the way. As Paul of Tarsus said to the Romans, "be not conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind".

Or ... chop wood and carry water.

Warmest best wishes to you all.

vinekeeper

2012 - The People Speak

December 21, 2012 approaches...

Where will Samuel L. Jackson be?

Discover the truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKgkY1yfOZM

Head South Daniel!

IMHO, the Northern hemisphere is pretty screwed up. It's only a matter of a few generations before all that radiation kicks in and you'll be living in an X-Men world. We're talking radioactive jellyfish and seaweed spreading across the pacific. Hanging out anywhere near NY or DC will assure you of low survival stats, unless you're an ex-marine. Thus, my simple life saving advice from me would be for you to emigrate to Cape Town, South Africa ASAP! I'll be waiting at the airport, if there's still air traffic. Call me on your SAT phone, if the solar strike doesn't blow all the communications satellites. I'll pick you up in my UNIMOG and we can go hang out in my bunker, 5000 metres under Table Mountain.

peace and love

Schwann