the zeitgeist movement as a replacement religion
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This is a re-post from http://cktwo.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/zeitgeist-movement-a-replacement-r...
It has now been 2 years since the inception of the original Los Angeles zeitgeist movement chapter (from a billing perspective). In couple weeks, this meetup group will either shut down or shift focus towards a broader idea. Apologies to those who have recently joined, but you can find “authorized” chapters in your local area at thezeitgeistmovement.com.
We’re also roughly at the 1 year mark of the new LA chapter, which is the main subject here. I would have reported on this when it happened, but when you read the details, perhaps you’ll understand why I had no faith that tZM members were anything but mindless followers. The great William Cooper once said “what happens when you broadcast the truth is you piss everyone off.” This is somewhat valid.
Last December (2010), shortly after I attended a S. Calif ZM social “mixer,” my subscription to the state newsletter as well as my ZMCA.org password were both deleted without notification. This too might have been a good time to publish some facts. But with the renewal fee from Meetup.com due shortly, it’s ironic that money is the final impetus for this message. For those who have already heard this story, you can skip the next few paragraphs but I think it’s worth considering again, especially in light of the recent divorce between tZM and the Venus Project.
At the end of ’09, a request was made to share the organizer’s password to the LA chapter website. There was no functional need for this, but I had no problem with it and complied by giving this password to Eva (the current “official” LA chapter coordinator). Little did I know what would transpire over the next few months. Briefly, She proceeded change the password and lock me out numerous times. Each time I inquired, she gave me the new password, but never explained why it had been changed. Several other changes were made to the site with no discussion whatsoever.
In April, I emailed members of the LA chapter, reporting the split between tVP and the Earth 2.0 project. The tone of my message was of disappointment with the tVP – blasphemy within the movement at that time. Soon the password changed again. The other admins’ privileges were reduced. Also, members’ communication became restricted, subject to the approval of the new admins (Jason and Eva). This time, when I inquired, I got no response. Instead, Eva arranged meetings with several members, both online and in person, excluding me from both. After nearly a week, I regained admin access, but still no response from her. Instead, she demanded of Meetup.com tech support that her admin rights be restored, which was refused. Faced with having lost the organizer status she basically tried to steal, she forwarded my Earth 2.0 email to Jen (US chapter coordinator), much like a grammar school tattletale, in an attempt to show that I was inadequate as organizer. She and Jason succeeded in convincing Jen that I was somehow causing problems within the group and that a new coordinator was needed. At this point, she proceeded to set up another website for LA, which to this day remains the “official” chapter website.
I used to say that I was utterly astounded that Jen simply went along with the testimonial of a few people, ignoring the other 200 members in the LA chapter. But in reality, I’m not. So many people in this current system are clearly in a state of lack. In many cases, it is financial. But in even more cases, the lack is emotional and is often manifested in a headstrong need to be a hero. And in fact, this was Jen’s chance to be just that – to use her “power” as US coordinator to remove the evil and corrupt Cal from the reigns of Los Angeles and install “new leadership” with integrity. Sounds grotesquely familiar, doesn’t it? I should add that some members attempted to get everyone together and actually communicate about this problem, but the “politicians in power” conveniently never showed up.
My point here is that this emotional lack results in an attachment to group think. Churches are an obvious example of this, as are employers, sports teams, nations, and countless others. But since tZM members have supposedly seen “the light,” or irrelevance, of these mainstream institutions, they are some of the neediest people on the planet. And the Zeitgeist Movement “brand” fills that void perfectly.
What are your true motivations in the movement? Are you a “yes” man or company woman for tZM? Is your position as coordinator a replacement for the corner office or the luxury car you can’t afford? Do you want to meet and hang out with Peter Joseph? Are you a Venus Project groupie? By these definitions, the coordinators of LA, California and the US are true “executive officers” of the movement (and they didn’t even have to interview). For them and others, the movement is essentially a religion.
If you support a movement to eradicate scarcity in the world, it is because there is scarcity in your own life. You see how your own situation would improve in a resource based social system. And it is your obligation to seek solutions to live an abundant life right now, instead of whining to everyone else about how they should help you change the current system. This typical form of activism, after all, will be as irrelevant as politics, law, and advertising. Real activism is truly “being the change” you wish to see in the world.
As I stated earlier, the meetup group will cease to be specifically affiliated with the zeitgeist movement. For those familiar with the 2nd film, (or with Thomas Paine), My country is the world…and my movement is to do good.
Comments
what?
exactly how is it a "replacement religion"? tzm is just information and coordination. by your standards it seems that any organization that identifies with any social direction would be religious. sorry you had a bad experience, but i don't see what your point is with the comparison.
re: what?
It always amazes me how people respond to something which is not there. When did I ever say TZM "is" a religion? Do a search for that word. It occurs only once but should answer your question.
It's also unfortunate how much people generalize. "Information and coordination" is simply your own perspective. Religion is not a status determined by the IRS. It depends on the beliefs and actions of the participating individual.
It amazes me further how people do not respond to what is there. Consider what some LA members did or that admins locked me out of both the main and CA site. Care to address any of this? Or is that the "coordination" part?
Lastly, whoever said I had a "bad experience?" Again, that's just your perspective. I certainly never said it was mine.
"When did I ever say TZM
"When did I ever say TZM "is" a religion?"
the title is tzm as a replacement religion. i'm asking what you mean by that. it wasn't clear. i can only assume that's what you're saying.
"Religion is not a status determined by the IRS. It depends on the beliefs and actions of the participating individual."
i don't disagree.
"Consider what some LA members did or that admins locked me out of both the main and CA site. Care to address any of this? Or is that the "coordination" part?"
i don't know the details, only what is here which doesn't make sense to me (not that you're at fault for that, maybe the situation just doesn't make sense).
"Lastly, whoever said I had a "bad experience?""
it seems like you did? was this a good experience? is it not safe to say you had a negative experience in tzm?
just trying to understand what you mean to communicate by this note. it wasn't apparent with one read.
RE
There is a difference between "as a religion" and "is a religion."
The details are all right here. The more important question is do you care about the details? It seems that you like many others would prefer to ignore them rather than question the machine that TZM has become. In other words, for most "coordinators", it has become just another extablishment which needs to be preserved.
This was one of the most enlightening experiences I have in recent years. How could that be bad? The fact that you see this as bad suggests that you think I have lost (or not preserved) somethihg of value. This I believe any movement needs to evolve away from before it is truly effective.
ok
must have misunderstood, but if you found it to be enlightening, then that's great. peace.






