Parents are not responsible for your salvation
posted by Christopher Lowman | October 22, 2011
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IcerocketWe act like they are.
If only mother weren’t so X, then I’d be X.
If only dad didn’t X, then I wouldn’t be so X.
It works in the future tense too.
Parents have one primary responsibility and it’s a big one. To care for your biological well being, in other words... to keep you alive.
If you are alive and reading this post, your parents did their job.
Anything above this, such as a good moral upbringing, education, toys, allowances, etc. was a bonus, not a requirement. Any perceived deficiencies in those areas is a result of your personal karma—they are perfect deficiencies in a way.
When we are talking about your ultimate salvation: total unity with the present moment, effortless reality, where there is no separation between I and experience, no doing... your parents have nothing to do with this.
Nothing.
At a certain point on the journey, your parents cease to be parents—you outgrow that recognition—but become, rather, very close associates, close souls indeed. And you hold both dear in your heart for the sacrifices they made for your life and who they are.
Typically, the responsibility for your ultimate salvation falls on the shoulders of the Guru. Illuminated masters, the Earth’s saviors, beings completely at one with the present moment, who through their work at becoming nothing, have become everything—an overflowing reservoir of bliss, beauty, ease, and love.
Yet this isn’t exactly correct either.
The Guru’s job is to awaken your inner Guru, your inner guidance system, your inner values, your true Self. Once done, the Guru’s work is done. They are catalysts of a kind.
Now it’s your turn. You're on your own (though not totally).
You are responsible for your ultimate salvation.
Not your Guru.
Not your parents.
You.
But you already knew that.
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hmmm
— Oct 22, 2011
by this definition
Illuminated masters, the Earth’s saviors, beings completely at one with the present moment, who through their work at becoming nothing, have become everything—an overflowing reservoir of bliss, beauty, ease, and love.
I would present you with this
http://www.evolver.net/user/harbinger/blog/still_lake_quiet_lake_serene_...
What's to teach?
It just happens. It must be experienced.
LOL No one can illuminate you or teach you to become a Master.
The best the teacher can do is witness it for you. Tell you his story. That's all. Perhaps i suppose he could provide you with understanding but not illumination. Whether you can connect to that understand is not determined by a Master. My understanding of it is you must be chosen but I have no idea how that is done or who does the choosing maybe tomorrow I'll be able to provide you with an explanation, maybe not. :)
About that savior thing. Just take the next right action and you will be OK. Just do what is right each step of the way. Throughout each day when in doubt stop ask yourself if this is the right action. If you have doubt, don't, think about it some more before moving forward. Always look deeply for your true motives. Right action arises from right motives. We can deceive ourselves very easily. If your motives are right, just and true proceed. In matters of "right" listen to your heart not your head. It is simple but very hard to do. It requires discipline but in time you'll get it. Nothing more is needed.
Parenting
Keep them safe
Keep them healthy
Encourage them to acquire an education
Encourage them to be good.
Provide them with meaningful life experiences when you can.
You may believe what you wish. i merely suggest.
I am the humbled
I stand before the Masters.
The Masters stand before me.
If i might ask
— Oct 22, 2011
What is the name of that experience in the Buddhist, Hindu context? The divine peace, still lake? I just have these experiences I usually find out what they are or are called after I have them.
That's just the way it goes. I do not make the rules.
:)
Let's just say that i have achieved your experience. Just for a moment believe that what i have said is absolutely true and i have achieve this divine state.
Then where is the guru in my question?
What is the name of that experience in the Buddhist, Hindu context?
I was just looking at stuff at the end of the grocery counter. Where in this is there a prescribed spiritual practice that can be learned? We all do, looking at stuff. :)
Could it have been a gift? Perhaps it was the summation of years of numerous practices that coalesced in a particular location and moment. I do not know. I'm asking.
Parents need to raise their children properly, period.
— Oct 23, 2011
Greetings,
I saw this and just had to put in my two cents worth.
"Parents have one primary responsibility and it’s a big one. To care for your biological well being, in other words... to keep you alive."
That's exactly what's wrong with this world. People want to have them but jettison all responsibility from having to raise them properly. They want the good life and the results without having to put the hard yards in, or get by doing the least amount of work possible. You see it everywhere these days, more profound than ever before. Quintessentially you're saying that the State should do the rest. And if not the State, then whom? A developing child is moulded by what they witness, especially by those in their immediate circle of influence i.e. usually their parents. Kids are like sponges. If a child is only receiving mechanical instruction or being "kept alive", as you say, then where or to whom do you think it will look for the rest? To "Hollywood" and popular American culture? To the virtual world and multimedia? Even the stones know what one is bound to find there...
Sheesh. This world (primarily what we can define as the "West") is a mess as it is. Can you imagine where it would be if all parents did just that? Have them and then just leave them to the mercy of their own fate?
They say that the apple doesn't fall far from the apple tree. And if there's something terribly wrong with the tree, then what hope can there be for the poor apple and its own imminent seed?
Best
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Dr. Paul Kiritsis, D. Phil.
BBSc, BMSc, PostGradDip, MMSc, D. Phil
Professional writer/ Award-winning author
When you bring life into
— Oct 23, 2011
When you bring life into this world you have a duty to steward after that life and teach it to become independent. Otherwise, we have a system of overgrown children in fancy clothes raising their children to be slaves. When mothers and fathers who are also likely to be bonded to the system commit to being parents by registering the birth, they have self identified themselves to be slaves incapable of assuming full responsibility to steward. They're now under parens patri, they ain't even their anymore. Which is why CPS can come in and your children away, you already sold them into bondage and their masters have a right to protect their interest. But this behavior is all one can ever really expect from another slave I suppose. I think it might be more appropriate to to say that it is no one elses responsibility to learn the principles of freedom for you. No one else can set you free. If you simply cannot think to be free, then you're bound and perhaps dependent on your bonds. It was your parents duty to teach you better, but if they didn't that still does not relieve your personal responsibility to learn. Nor does starting off at a disadvantage. These are the cards your were dealt and experience you obviously set out for so get use to it or alter it if you see yourself fit to. If you're still fumbling over what to do now keep in mind that the elite bankers of the world don't teach their offspring how to be slaves...
http://ia600408.us.archive.org/28/items/OccultTechnologyOfPower/OccultTe...
"My Son,
In this thin volume you will find the transcripts of your initiation into the secrets of my empire. Read them again, not for the arcane knowledge which is now second nature to you, but in order to re- experience the shock and awe you felt twenty years ago when at age thirty the fabulous scope of my power was revealed to you by my trusted, and now, mostly departed advisors. Remember the surprise to the point of disbelief, with which you beheld the invisibly delicate, but invincible chains of deceit, confusion, and coercion with which we finance capitalists enslave this chaotic world, Remember the feats of will and strategy that have been required to retain our position. Then, inspect your retinue carefully. Your heir must be equal to and eager for the task, much as you were. Choose him carefully. As I lie here waiting for the end, I can afford to relish the thought of our empire lasting forever as I never dared while in charge. Rational power calculations, so easily disrupted by the thrills of power, are now entirely in your hands.
INTRODUCTION TO YOUR INITIATION
My son, the time has arrived to make formal what you have confidently awaited for some years. Of all your brothers, sisters, and cousins, as well as the offspring of my close allies, I have chosen you to be heir to my empire. All the trust funds, foundations, and accounts through which my empire is controlled shall pass into your hands upon my retirement. All my alliances, understandings, and enmities with my handful of peers around the globe shall gradually become yours. Over the next twenty years we shall collaborate closer and closer, you and I, until, we finally act as one..."
"I will take care of me for you, if you will please take care of you for me..."
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— Oct 23, 2011
I have went back and forth with this one. I have found it very important to disconnect from not only my parents, but siblings as I've continued my practice being. And it has been helpful to view them as you said: souls. That is who they are, whether you've spent a significant amount of time with them or not...and viewing anybody in this manner keeps all relationships fresh....For example, you may have had an argument with your significant other 5 hours ago...but now is now, and there that person is....a human being in front of you wearing a blue shirt and glasses with a neutral expression on their face sipping coffee...it is raining and the cat is purring beside the end table with the lamp on it. There is nothing wrong in the moment...nothing particularly right...there is just the moment.
Then again...I also like to think about if people died today, to remind myself to think of them in the highest way, more easily forgive them of anything they may have done to hurt me and to recognize the light in them. Yes, it is true they are "just souls." But if I received a phone call today that my mother had died, I'd of course be more sad than if it was "a soul." When I think of my Mom, I like the warmth that penetrates my heart. I love knowing she is very special, moreso than to a soul I don't know at all. She did way more than her job. Above and beyond, and I still call her just to say that I love her.
I guess for me, it is important to view them simply as souls when there is something in that relationship that is holding a person back from achieving their highest good...for instance, if their parents do not approve of psychedelics, or a certain spiritual belief. But it is wonderful being connected when they can be the ones who will always understand the base of you...and it isn't every soul who has held you in your arms, fed you with a spoon, and protected you from harm at such a vulnerable age, in such an unconditional way. Not the grocery store clerk, not the spouse, not the best friend.
The point
— Oct 24, 2011
... is this.
You are responsible for your ultimate salvation.
Not any authority.
Parents.
Government.
Boss.
Teacher.
Guru.
Etc.
The final climb of Mt. Everest to reach the summit must be traveled alone. Not with any sherpa. You have to do it yourself.
