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June 11, 2009

I am not familiar with any visionary music artists. Whom, in particular, would you suggest best represent this genre? p.j.

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You can download my album

You can download my album for free at alanscheurman.com I consider it to be visual and consider myself to be a visionary so check it out.

sing songs you are taught in dreams

alanscheurman.com 

excellent

I had downloaded the album about a month or 2 agoe, and i was very impressed. I encourage anyone to get their hands on it and listen to it through a few times, its a nice trip.

Inject some medicine thru

Inject some medicine thru your ear canals with The Future Nurses.

I see them every month, and I'm probably in a few of these lovely pictures. I'm usually seen dancing my ass off. :)

ooh

yummy. have you heard of autechre?

I would suggest the following

Sunn O)))
Lichens
Black Moth Super Rainbow

these are sounds that bring about powerful visual stimulus within myself.
they fit well into the shall we say "broader" description set forth by Michael in previous post.
I also echo his suggestions of The Mars Volta and Of Montreal.

I've just downloaded Alan's album as well, much appreciated.

Sunn O))) suggestion

If you ever get the chance, pick up their releases "Domkirke" or "Oracle"

They very much focus on the "sonic ritual" aspect of live music.

I'm going to see Black Moth

I'm going to see Black Moth Super Rainbow next week for free!!
Also -- strange -- I saw Lichens yesterday at a Dirty Projectors + The Sea and Cake Show. I didn't know what he looked like, until I looked him up just now, and I was like, oh, I saw him.....

Anyway -->

Since I've been listening to Captain Beefheart a lot lately, I must put him out there? Maybe I can suggest more when I figure out what visionary music is, because I'm not so sure I really know either...

ps. Sunn 0))) yup.

www.karissalang.com

lets see...

fennesz jumps to the top of my head ... and ... i do what i can :) ... my albums are all freely available at my website - http://www.nintariman.com/

haha

just clicked on your page, so jealous you will be live painting at rothbury! disco biscuits, string cheese, shpongle, sts9, lotus, eoto... mmm. hope it's amazing. i'll be catching some of these guys at camp bisco :)

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SHPONGLE

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More

Two other early electronic/psych groups from the 60s to check out:

The United States of American

Fifty Foot Hose

both groups only made 1 album each but they are both pretty far out.

Silver Apples are truly visionary.

I fucking LOVE Silver

I fucking LOVE Silver Apples. I've been wanting to listen to Moon Dog...

www.karissalang.com

you jump start my dreams

Ah, Simeon! I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Silver Apples in 1998 or so - live - chapel hill, last Polvo show. Sick, sick live drummer. So, so good.

Lotus

While I don't know if it could be considered visionary. I LOVE the band Lotus and feel they have this amazing vibe, especially live. You can download a lot of live shows from them for free at www.archive.org, just do a search. They play what is referred to as 'Jamtronica' mixing rock and jam styles ala the Allman Brothers, with an electronic sound, that they produce perfectly live with guitar, bass, drums, keys/synth, and sampler.

I know that music nowadays

I know that music nowadays for the most part is overloaded with materialistic bullsh*t. I have been recording music for my entire life, starting in a family band when I was 4. You can listen to some of my music at:

myspace.com/nickgee667

Really the first song on there "Mad World" is the first one I've recorded since I began my path to ascension. More songs are coming though, and hopefully fast.

totally agree with a lot

totally agree with a lot that has been said so far, especially of Montreal. they're my favorite band and their live show is just awe-inspiring. really you can't go wrong with anything Elephant 6. check out The Olivia Tremor Control - just beautiful organic psychedelia.

other visionary artists: Sunburned Hand of the Man, No-Neck Blues Band, Boredoms, Bardo Pond, Zs, Animal Collective, Black Dice (esp. older stuff), Yeasayer, Lightning Bolt, Sun Araw, Pocahaunted (check out the Not Not Fun label), Edan, Black Sabbath Blue Fiji / Blue Sabbath Black Fiji, Burning Star Core (amazing live both times I saw him), Gang Gang Dance...

I could go on all day with this so I'll stop now. and if you want to check out my music you can at myspace.com/sacredmelt you can also download my discography at prayerheavy.blogspot.com

2 more

Here is a big one that deserves attention: Tool. Especially their three most recent albums, Aenima, Lateralus, and 10,000 Days. The album covers of Lateralus and 10,000 Days feature artwork by Alex Grey, and the videos for the songs Vicarious and Parabola are quite literally Alex Grey's artwork in motion. I know Tool's music is a bit heavier at times, but this should not deter you, for the music and lyrics are extremely powerful and deep. If anyone has already been touched by Tool's music please go to alexgrey.com and donate to the cosM art sanctuary where a Tool shrine is planned to be constructed.

Another band that creates visionary music is Isis. I must warn that this one may take some getting used to due to their intense vocals (this is a pretty heavy band). Their latest album Wavering Radiant is by far their finest work in my opinion.

agree

I couldnt agree more mate, TOOL are my all time favourite band, those dudes just get it. Those 3 albums in particular are truly amazing. For anybody who hasnt listened to them, do yourself a favour and check them out! I have donated to Alex Grey's proposed shrine and want to purchase his prints, only I dont really have anywhere to hang them, the house is running out of walls!

I also agree with Isis, another great band, but yeah for those who don't like heavier music, approach with care, the vocals are particularly brutal!

Also check out Mastodon and their latest album Crack the Skye, the whole album flows seamlessly and conveys the same themes.

Fan of Tool and Alex Grey

I think the paintings of Alex Grey completely represent what Tool's music means to me. The music touches my spirit.

Great bands

Tool are an awesome band, Lateralus and 10,000 Days really are amazing pieces of work. Isis are also good, and Mastodon. Neurosis are another great band, though much darker and heavier, so not for everyone. I've also been listening to Sephiroth and Dead Can Dance, great music that can really take you away.

... the ear of the beholder ...

Perhaps some of you might like what I've been doing with music: http://www.myspace.com/joeldavidpalmer

Joel David Palmer
Editor, Writer, Mediator, Agricultural Engineer, Musician

nousphere

These guys have been making music for awhile together, but just recently started an experimental project. I know they would really appreciate any feedback from listeners such as yourself:

http://www.myspace.com/nousphere

visionary music

I think all music is visionary.
One must have an idea (a "vision") and then procede to create it. Sometimes the visions come along with the creation. I mean all art can be visionary. Is Michelangelo not visionary? Is Mozart not visionary? Do you know Mozart had a fantasy kingdom in his mind he could travel to whenever he wanted? He talks about it in his diaries and letters. Maybe you want to call this group, new age hipster music?
Maybe you are looking for music that is not the norm? Something different?
If you want something a little less western, anyone ever listen to music of Bali? They play a style called Gamalan which can be found all along the eastern coast of asia. It is a ritual involving dance, music, singing and art. They play metal xylophone like instruments with golden hammers. Every note they play is a dancemove. Youtube it, pretty "visionary" stuff.
Ever hear of Tuvan or Mongolian throat singing?
This is cliche but I love Indian classical and some pop. Indian Classical is inseperable from spirituality, the entire purpose of creating music is for the spirit.
Someone has also mentioned to me but I haven't checked it out. Turkish and Arabic classical music. Apparently their tone systems are meant to bring on very strong euphoria. Similar to India their music is spiritual in intent but apparently even more advanced in some respects to Indian.
Hungarian rythm? Eastern Europe has some of the most varied and interestingly eclectic cultures in the world.
There are tons of different drumming and melodic cultures from Africa. Check out the Bwiti tribe's music, that tribe that takes Iboga, very beautiful music. Ever see the documentary of Bela Fleck going to africa to find the original banjo? Tons of unheard cultures in Africa. A pandora's box.
I mean you guys mention Moon Dog but he is only a tiny little part of the insanity that is "classical" American music that has been going on for the past 100+ years. Charles Ives? Harry Partch? Bang on a Can? Phillip Glass? Steve Reich? John Adams? Terry Riley? Lamonte Young? All of those guys can blow your mind if you let them and do just a little study on who they are. There is this huge academic "underground" world surviving through colleges that is pushing the envelope of what art is way past what many people will accept as music. John Cage? Fluxus? Henry Cowell? I mean that's just stuff I studied a tiny bit in school.
You could then get into jazz. Sun Ra anyone? Rasaahn Roland Kirk? John Coltrane? Monk? Chicago Art Ensemble?
Nobody has mentioned Squarepusher. His latest album he has written on his website a very detailed description of his "vision" that he had that inspired the album.
There are SO MANY different cultures in this world. SO MANY different visions!

:X

Sorry!
I didn't read that great blurb you have there. There is a silly tab you have to press to make it viewable.
Well then! Please excuse my rudeness. I am the type of person who says the first nasty thing that pops into their head, I think it has something to do with being a Sagitarius.
Yea I guess that music Isuggested is visionary
I was trying to suggest to people to look all around the world
because with the internet you can find some really out there stuff

Ozric Tentacles

Not sure if anyone has mentioned them yet. They have been playing since the late 70's and took on new technology along the way. Mostly instrumental, they go far into non western modalities while infusing their music with very cerebral electronic land scapes. They are one of those bands that seems to get better and better, after about 30 years of playing together, they are simply phenomenal. They have a dedicated live following in GB where they are from, but seems like not many Americans are informed yet of their existence. It is a shame, since live electronic music is getting big here, and much of it, although good and conducive to visionary states, is a bit shallow. I love STS9 but they sometimes seem like a graphic design concept, fans tend to seem very concerned with the hipness of it all, such is any scene I suppose. But listen to Ozric Tentacles and you can tell that there is much more of a deep appreciation for the power of sound to transport, beyond any desire to create a trendy sound. I could be wrong though, since I have never met them.

REAL geeks

Lol, I would expect them to be REAL geeks. Any one I ever met who was hardcore into prog rock had a strong streak of geek in them. Perhaps that is what makes them seem more genuine to me than the aspiring hipness and wannabe urban sound of most "jamtronica" bands, which are probably all geeks too, but less overtly. Art, Music, Literature- these are not things born out of vanity, but too aptly applied for vanity. There is always the brain in action through these creative process. The geek is the brain over body, hence prog rock, IDM, classical, experimental, even jazz now, seems Geeky when compared to popular rock or hip hop which is all body over brain- must have beat to dance to, and body to fantasize over in the popular arena. I love dance and sex appeal, but to the visionary creator these qualities become tertiary to cerebral impact and spiritual flight. This reminds me of a little blurb a friend wrote about IDM. I will post in a second.

I wish you could talk

I didn't write this. I wouldn't write this. It was written by a friend of mine who is a music and literature student, and much more cynical about life than I. That said, you may find this blurb rather pessimistic, especially when she questions whether the cerebral qualities of IDM are part of a mind/body fracture. I think the word fracture is putting it a little harsh. Regardless, this touches slightly on what I was just writing about the brain over body, geeky, quality to what I would consider visionary music. The reason it is just a blurb is that her teacher rejected it as a topic she could write about. Anyways...

"I wish you could talk" -Caitlin Turner

If rave culture and all of its trappings (“huggy demonstrativeness”, in Simon Reynolds’ words) primarily concerns itself with the body, then Intelligent Dance Music (IDM) must be all about the mind, man. IDM, which developed during the dance music diaspora of the late 1990’s, remains a controversial label in the nomenclature of electronica. How, after all, are we to reconcile such an “un-danceable” genre of music within a spectrum of sound so overly concerned with its effects upon the body? This paper seeks to accomplish that task through an exploration and analysis of four questions, with the first being: The theoretical shift within IDM’s structure and sound suggests that a different type of artistry takes place in Squarepusher’s studio than in Paul Oakenfold’s— Does IDM celebrate the body of the artist above the body of the audience? Secondly, how does the relationship between substance use/abuse and electronic music relate to IDM specifically? The word “dissociative” describes both a type of recreational chemical and a mental state of being—did the shift from E to Acid to Ketamine usher in the mind/body fracture inherent to IDM? Thirdly, how does bodily interaction within musical space and physical place affect the relationship between what one hears and what one feels? The pleasure one finds in hallucinatory disconnection and disembodiment while plugged into headphones listening to Four Tet at the computer differs greatly from the pleasure one finds while interacting with a thousand sweaty bodies at a rave. Finally, Is IDM’s growing popularity a decade after its conception simply symptomatic of a larger cultural fracture between the body and mind, between intellectual identity and temporal existence? IDM can be compared to be-bop or progressive rock in the way it polarizes audiences—“shut up and dance” becomes “shut up and dream”.

third mind music

A fascinating read: " This Is Your Brain On Music" by Daniel J. Levitin.
What is this I don't know:
http://www.last.fm/music/lithomesh/_/Its+Like+Analagous+2+DervishWa

Isn't all music visionary?

That being said, here's what I've been listening to -- a couple of "labels" that are doing important things.

Sublime Frequencies
- produces music and film, short wave, field, and radio recordings of Asia, Africa, and the middle east
http://www.myspace.com/sublimefrequencies2

Gandhara Recordings
- I'm actually involved with this artist co-op (check out Broken Deer). They release music on handmade, sustainable materials, and the emphasis is on spontaneous, strange, beautiful sounds
http://www.myspace.com/gandhararecordings

Other notables perhaps

The lyrics Tommy Hall wrote for the 13th Floor Elevators are hugely visionary. The cat wanted the band to play the acid. Pretty far out.

CAN and a good number of other "kraut-rock" groups really pushed and pulled for something uniquely their own.

Father Yod and his Yo Ho Wha 13

BORIS