Denying My "Need" To Change People

remember the line test? this guy sits in a room and has to tell which line matches to the length of another... everyone in the room tricks him by all agreeing that its a line that really isnt the same length... he doesnt know theyre all part of the study and has internal challenges because hes like oh shit i dont want to be different and weird, theres a reason why everyone agrees

so its natural, the people will come around as more and more realize what you are saying isnt because you have some weirdness about you, but its something inside of them that they dont understand, and then theyll start to search, and become more aware of things so... its alllll very interesting

I've discovered that when presenting a personal view in the hope of making the person you are connecting with open to your ideas, that it's best to present the information in a way that will make the listener think about your view and that will hopefully be the spark that will incite their personal journey towards questioning and researching these truths. This way your ego does not get in the way, you present your views, allow them the time to absorb and come to their own conclusions...namaste!

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You've basically outlined the last 10 years of interaction I've had with friends and family! Whats frustrating for people like you and I is we are beginning to awaken to the true nature of reality and it is incompatible with our consciousness not to want to help enlighten others. The difficult thing is like you had mentioned it's not so much our need to win an argument but rather it is our EGO taking control of our consciousness and when that happens there begins a tug of war between two egos. When this happen it's like equate it to trying force two oppsite magnets together. It is impossible.

We feed off of each others energy weather we realize it or not. If we are in a agreement with an individual and we share like energies we strengthen our self along with the other consciousnesses with those who share similar beliefs. Ideas and beliefs become crystallized in our essence and we become more how shall I say "confident" in our self. It's a sense of relief and confidence to realize we are not "crazy" or on the "fringe". After a great discussion we usually feel extremely energized and refreshed. I feel that it totally has to do with the positive flow of like energy we are supplying to each other in order to give strength to the truth we know we share with each other.

On the other hand when we engage in a battle of 2 opposing belief systems that's where the we will begin to behave like a psychic vampire. One of us will always try to strengthen our essence at the expense of the other individual regardless of weather or not that is our intention. I mean when I try and have a discussion with some members of my family it tends to turn very ugly. My brother and I tend to get into very heated discussions where I always end up feeling like I was physically assaulted in a sense. It never has come to blows but my energy has changed for the worse and I'm usually angry and pissed that he will not see my point of view or where where I'm coming from.

When it is all said and done people like us need to first realize the only way we can ever change others is to live our truth. Be the change we wish to see in the world as Ghandi put it. For me now it's less about waking people up to the lies of the Illuminati and NWO, and more about what am I doing to make my life more in tune with the reality I wish to be a part of. This is soooo freakin hard sometimes I want to just say fuck it I can't take it any more. Evolver has literally changed my life. If it were not for people like you I truly feel like I would have lost my mind. Just be aware of the fact that the only person you can EVER change is yourself. One you begin to live your truth people will see you as an example for how they can change themselves for the better. And also remember that sometimes there are people who do not want to change. Perhaps their who reason for being in relation to your life is to play the role of sparing partner. To always be the constant opposition to your truth in order to give you the confidence to stick to your guns always and never let go of what you know to be true to you. Life is like a huge game and once you get the controls mastered you'll win every time. It's like what Socrates was told by the Oracle at Delphi. He was the wisest man in Athens not because he knew everything, but because he was the only man who knew he knew nothing at all.

So my brother, just always remember to keep on fighting the good fight and don't loose yourself in someone else's reality. You are among your family here!

The world for which I was made does not exist

Same here. Some of what Eckhart Tolle says in the Power of Now has been helpful. For example, with friends and family, we can try to be there with them, simply present. The opposite of that is to label them as in need of help. I like Eckhart's proposition to just be there; be a space to invite the other person to be present too, however little change happens. It's a good spiritual practice in its own right, to challenge oneself to be present, and to really listen to the other person.. but yeah, I talked with people at a 10 day Vipassana course who went many times; and one said he stopped talking about it. When he tried to convince friends or family they weren't interested. When he stopped talking and just BE the change, then old friends noticed and asked.

I've also gone through this. Recently, I've made the decision to try and reconnect with my best friend from the past, although I think it was my interest in more hardcore topics that may have turned him off... or maybe it turned me off to him.

So I'm trying to be less messianic, but at the same time I've also had some success... especially in my family, and in the end, there are still some people who could use help. Whether or not I'm really helping them is not up to me, but we should all be trying to help each other even if we may be wrong. Let life sort out the details. If we all just mind our own business and be apathetic then nobody wins, right?

So I really have a dual purpose in my life, one I try not to stick my knowledge in other peoples face, but I still try to seduce them to the truth in small, subtle ways. It's like seducing a woman... if you come across too strong or needy you will likely fail. It's more about working on yourself and being sure you are well informed and that you can really help people.

Cheers,

Rob

the only person anyone can change is themselves

i like using a variation of become the change you want to see in my mind
"i am the change that will come to be"

i bet if you found your own realization of how to turn that changing energy all inward you would end up with a powerful nonabrasive vibe that could influence changes in others on all the most important levels, the ones unperceived.

its funny when that stuff from the Tao about nonaction starts to make sense :]

As Aleister Crowley said, "If I tell a man something he is not ready to hear, it is the same as if I told him a lie."

Thank you for this article. I know it too well. I was EXTREMELY critical of just about everything, the government, pharmaceuticals, oil, et al., and championed my causes LOUDLY, to ANYONE. Here is what I've learned. What I put out is what returned, and let me share with you that taking on the authority in the world made me no new friends and more than a few enemies. I am now for things, not against things.

So, because I want love and acceptance, this is what I strive to give. Because I recognize now that I only have the power to direct one person's path and that is my own. By working hard to embody my truths, I hope that my example somehow has a positive impact on the world and I have detached from needing to know how.

This is Heaven on Earth.