Summary of Fractal Science

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May 4, 2010

The universe is comprised of a single compressible medium, sometimes called 'the ether'. The compressibility of that medium- gives rise to standing waves of compression vs rarefaction- which are called plus and minus- CHARGE- or simply yin and yang. (The more centripetal implosive of those is negative charge- inviting comparison to the 'black hole' fractal nature of negative ions). The ability of the squishy waves of jello in that media to STORE INERTIA as the waves (of charge) move is the origin of mass- since when waves in that material rotate in a circle,- they store the inertia -like a gyroscope -which is our only definition for MASS.

The period of wave rotation in that media (rotation of charge) is our only definition of TIME. Connectivity in time / synchronicity- then, depends ultimately on the perfection of coupling of charge- which is precisely what fractality in Golden Ratio - creates.- See equation for fractality in time as the PHYSICS OF COINCIDENCE: golden ratio times planck time=hydrogen , solar year , venus year etc - at goldenmean.info/coincidence

Plus / Minus - Charge is a name for the difference between compression versus rarefaction - in that media. This explains why negative charge (more centripetal) has to be fractal in order to be - as it is known - 'a black hole' of sorts. Hence - the healing / disinfecting power of negative ion wind- and later as we shall see - a correlate to the cause of gravity.

Essentially the more compressed form of plasma - that results when the spin /rotation symmetries complete their platonic (and therefore Golden Ratio) nesting - is called the atomic table. See goldenmean.info/creation -for pictures. Notice there the seed for your new understanding that the atomic table's platonic and golden ratio fractality is itself powerful evidence - that even atoms only make and have gravity because their inside -nucleus, is fractal (& golden ratio ) to their outside - electron shells.

Get the nesting right - pent the hex - and you MAKE gravity - This symmetry for capacitors MAKES gravity - ( goldenmean.info/thrust , goldenmean.info/predictions )

Inviting collapse is a way to start the inward rushing (implosion) of waves of charge. Self-similar arrangement allows these waves to add and multiply their speeds - this turns compression in to acceleration (called Gravity) This is the infinite non-destructive compression Einstein yearned to discover which he correctly predicted was how to extract voltage from gravity. So objects fall to the ground because a vortex has been created for charge making suction thru the speed of light (gravity).

The essential wave symmetry which creates all centripetal forces - and therefore all self-organization - (discussion: goldenmean.info/selforganization )

and therefore: the cause of -

*gravity

*phase conjugation (self organization in optics, phase conjugate dielectrics-which are bioactive, and phase conjugate magnetics

*plasma clouds which hang together

*life force

*perception

*human bliss

*lucid dreaming / astral (plasma) projection and life after death

*color and rainbows

*that which survives galactic superwaves/ solar maximum / 2012 / the so called 'rapture'

... proceeds in 2 simple geometric steps.

START BY INCUBEATING-- THEN REPENT TO BE SAVED..

First - simply - the waves must approach precisely from cubic (tetra) opposites - to create a stable cubic lattice. Examples of this are:

the so called 4 wave mixing- cubic lattice which is step one- in setting up lasers to make phase conjugation and self organization in optics.

The Hebrew Alphabet-is another good example of - INCUBEATION. It allows you to fabricate plasma donuts in sequence which all fit a tetra/cubic lattice.

For you chemistry scholars- the examples there would be the totally tetra/cubic nature of the Pi - 6 electron suborbital. Atoms whose outer valence is cubic have a particular symmetry good for charge isolation - but NOT good for charge distribution. This is a very good lesson for architects: the part of the house needing secrets and privacy - needs cubic lattice.. bad for cancer- good for AIDS.

Step TWO is to set up the hypercube - which ultimate IS simply how 5 cubes rotate into a DODECAHEDRON- thus for the first time setting up GOLDEN RATIO -and therefore implosive / fractal / phase conjugate / centripetal force.
For - biologists this is the reason the hex array of the beehive causes preservation - but not distribution.

So - now we must ask- how does all this prepare us to prepare... for the solar max?

1. Locate yourself where magnetic lines are fractal (roselike). Here tornadoes avoid destroying things- and so will the solar wind (because this FEELS like mind even to big tornadoes- which in the case of the solar / galactic wind IS in the form of ANGEL NAMES.. if you understand plasma physics.

2. Prepare for High wind - high water

3. Distance yourself from big cities

4. Community - close knit circle of community friends who can pool their skills and resources..

5. Seeds

6. Prepare for life without electricity for some time

7. Bliss ritual preparation - individually and groups- Also- consider working with Angel Calls ..

8. Lucid dreaming skill required..

A detailed visual link is located at: http://www.goldenmean.info/powerpoint/index2.html

The FRACTAL FIELD - Revolutionary Research Frontier - with Radically Powerful Solutions to Virtually ALL Major Global Issues:

1. Peacemaking: How The FRACTAL FIELD Can Make Teaching PEACE Into a New and Powerful SCIENCE - more: goldenmean.info/peaceuniversity

2. Agriculture: How the FRACTAL FIELD Can Revolutionize Farming by creating Phase Conjugate Environment which properly allow DNA to Communicate and Thrive electrically - more: goldenmean.info/germination , and goldenmean.info/phaseconjugation

3. Architecture: How the FRACTAL FIELD Can ReInvent Architecture now that the Principle of Building a BIOLOGIC CAPACITOR Allows us to Create Structure to Truly Create Healing and Bliss in Biology - more: goldenmean.info/architecture

4. Genetics: How the FRACTAL FIELD Can ReDefine Success in Genetic Research / and Engineering - based on ReDefining DNA COHERENCE, and DNA 'Radio', and DNA Ability to Absorb and Radiate the Electric Field of LIFE! - more: goldenmean.info/decode , and goldenmean.info/12strands , goldenmean.info/phaseconjugation

5. Psychology of BLISS / Ecstasy and PEAK EXPERIENCE: How the FRACTAL FIELD Allows Us Now to Define, Measure and most of all TEACH - Peak Experience , Bliss, Ecstasy - True Enlightenment - more: goldenmean.info/clinicalintro

6. Urban Design: How the FRACTAL FIELD Allows us to Re-Invent URBAN DESIGN Based on Fractal Charge Compression- to Attract People, Money, Charge and LIFE FORCE Back into Urban Design- more: goldenmean.info/lightcity , goldenmean.info/rosycross

7. Weather / Climate / Rainmaking: How the FRACTAL FIELD Allows us to Attract Rain - and Regulate Precipitation - more: goldenmean.info/rain , and The Yantra Pics at goldenmean.info/callingallangels

8. Energy: How the FRACTAL FIELD Can Allow Us to PROPERLY Use Charge Self-Similarity to COHERE and Couple the Gravity Field for Electric Charge - WITHOUT Destabilizing the Earth Grid - more : goldenmean.info/gravitycause , goldenmean.info/notfree

How the (Phi) FRACTAL FIELD provides radical new solutions to GLOBAL WARMING: goldenmean.info/warming , and WHEN COLD FUSION gets COLD: goldenmean.info/fusion

9. Another example of FRACTAL FIELD - self similar charge field -revolutionizing medicine..- note how Negative Ion Wind (a fractal field) radically sweeps infection and parasites from the body ( see: ref 1) -perfectly consistent with using fractality to measure ANY liquid's ability to support life ( ReDox Potential measure at goldenmean.info/healingphase ) and - measuring fractality in Air to find and measure life's electric signature ( see IGA at phaseconjugation link). + Fractal Field is Electrical Engineering Instructions for SUCCESSFUL DEATH! - goldenmean.info/death

10.-FRACTALITY in the HEART-solution to EKG+ virtually ALL disease resistance: goldenmean.info/holarchy , goldenmean.info/heartmathmistake

11.-FRACTALITY in TIME (time=measurement of charge rotation) -charge systems emerge from chaos only this way-fractality (how to generate synchronicity): goldenmean.info/TIMESTAR , goldenmean.info/timewave- Just as Bruce Cathie showed nuclear critical mass varied with grid position, in space AND time - fractality (constructive charge compression) is the OBVIOUS principle- so capacitors properly arranged in a golden spiral firing in TIME - WILL reduce critical mass! (sorry CIA - the principle of FRACTALITY {fear's opposite} is PUBLIC information).

Comments

No i'm not Dan Winter, I

No i'm not Dan Winter, I think he is on this site but he doesn't post anything. I'm kinda young I guess, 26. Yes I know about his original website. There was an argument about some of the work he has done with the Meru foundation. I have seen both sides of the arguments and it looks like it was unconstitutional how they treated the case. Meru had lots of money to defend there case and Dan didn't have any. Here is a link for Dan's side of the story: http://www.goldenmean.info/dnaring/danside.pdf and some other interesting points here: http://www.goldenmean.info/dnaring/update/tenen/tenen.html

Yes it seems like there is a steep learning curve with this type of information. I do believe everyone can understand if they put forth the effort. I don't think I am extra smart, I just never gave up. So when you say you need to master th e higher levels like in mathematics I do agree with you but even if you don't put in years and years of traditional schooling doesn't mean you can't understand. Its about the drive of the individual. I think what Winters has achieved is a synthesis between the grimoires of old and modern physics. What I am most interested in is the pure principles of things. Are you familiar with pure principles? The Rhind Papyrus seems interesting, I will have to look into that. Im looking into the Voynich manuscript at the moment but that is really complex.

``the great laws of physics hidden in Aztec Diamonds'' That sounds very interesting!

I consider my main mission in life to be synthesis of religion/spirituality and science. What are your ideas about that? Do you think the spiritual terms can ever be explained? Do you think we can understand immortality and death scientifically? I'v been studying Dan Winters body of knowledge since about 1999, seriously since about 2003. Its nice to see things he talked about way back then and even before that coming true! Also I would like to know some of your thoughts on http://www.evolver.net/user/pod4/blog/errors_science_will_cost_you_your_... Since you are a tenured teacher/scientist? This is kinda random but do you know of Dr Hicks Phd in philosophy, Dr Gleicher Phd in political science from Rockford college, Rockford ILL? The fractal picture I have up is the layout of an African tribe. maybe it would also be used for burial? The very center of the fractal is an alter they use to contact their elders.

So what side of the fence are you on? Are you for or against this information? Have you had personal experience with any of it?

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When I say Dan Winters work

When I say Dan Winters work I guess that is not what I really mean. To me his work is a collection of about 500 books & sources. So its more of using Winters work as a structure for further studies *Searches for list* Here is a small list of the most important sources.

Memories, Dreams and Reflections by Carl Jung. Other assorted material
Synergetics by Buckminster Fuller
Zachariah Sitchin
Law’s of Form - by Spencer Brown.
Sentics- by Manfred Clynes
Cymatics- by Hans Jenny
When Time Breaks Down- by Arthur Winfree
Stalking the Wild Pendulum-& Cosmic Book - by Ben Bentov.
Flatland is in there also and the Feynman's collective works.

Laws of form is a difficult book to find and its expensive. When time breaks down is VERY ADVANCED, I had to put that one down. The only Feynman I'v read is the one you recommended, Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman , What do you care what other people think? That was just simply amazing. The way he approached the rocket problems? I was in the bookstore and had a choice between 6 easy parts/6 not so easy parts and Programming the universe by Seth Lloyd. I picked programming the universe. Synergetics would take a lifetime to understand fully I think, finished the first volume working on the second. That is just a small list. So I haven't really specialized in one subject, I became scientific when I had experiences and wanted understanding of them to make them reproducible. So Iv mostly been working on the theory part of things, I need to become more hands on I guess. When I do it will be to make phase conjugation devices. Also Flatland has a sequel called sphereland I think? That story has gone more mainstream since the release of What the Bleep do we Know.

"However, much of what one learns when one formally educates oneself in science is ``language'', and although just knowing ``pure principles'' expressed in everyday language is fine to get ideas across to people, to really understand things, you need to master the true language of science."
This may somewhat be out the of realm of excepted science but "To symbolize is to embed" Done correctly the language itself IS the thing. Pure principles are the most important discoveries around or as Fuller calls it Generalized principle:
160.00 Generalized Design Science Exploration
Science has been cogently defined by others as the attempt to set in order the facts of experience. When science discovers order subjectively, it is pure science. When the order discovered by science is objectively employed, it is called applied science. The facts of experience are always special cases. The order sought for and sometimes found by science is always eternally generalized; that is, it holds true in every special case. The scientific generalizations are always mathematically statable as equations with one term on one side of the equation and a plurality of at least two terms on the other side of the equation.
and more of the jibber jabber here: http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s01/p6000.html

Just having the pure principle isn't much though if you can't apply it. The 5 Platonic solids are pure principle but how do you apply them? Those 5 shapes create every atom on the atomic scale. Also it is everything in creation and all living things for starters. So an intuitive person could just study those 5 shapes and come out with god knows what. Da Vince studied every single angle of all those shapes, there in a giant notebook of his. Also 7 spins inside/5 spins outside is a very important pure principle but i will leave that one alone for now.

I don't know if I understand what you mean with the RAW monologue part.

"How are changes in air pressure, temperature, and volume related? If you really understand what gives gasses their temperature, and if you understand basic principles of energy, you can work this out just by thinking about it! "
It is amazing when those moments happen!! I haven't had it for your example but for other things. When it happens it is measurable in the eeg/ekg as coherence through the golden mean ratio. All of the most important discoveries know to mankind, past and present, have to do with the golden mean ratio. Dan Winters work is simply a very good excuse to study golden mean ratio.

pseudo-science to sum it up: Relies on you disproving it and science relies on the burden of proof. So those going around saying things to be scientific because you can't disprove it is pseudo-science. From my personal experience Dan Winters work is not pseudo-science. It is rooted in hard science. What was the last problem Einstein couldn't figure out and he said if he could, it could solve his equation for a unified field? Infinite non-destructive compression. Golden mean ratio is the solution. If you need a mainstream source el naschie has hundreds of articles which I can't access because they are very expensive. I know my g/f is in school and has access to scientific documents free of charge. Is there any way you could have access to those articles for free?So that is really what fractal science comes down to-infinite non-destructive compression/phase conjugation.

When I say spiritual I mean all the new age woo woo terms that most people shrug off. For instance-aura, grace, ghost, soul, holiness, things like that. There are reproducible scientific measurements you can make to prove these terms in a scientific way. Do you believe that to be true? Or better said since you haven't done the measurements yourself, do you think it is a possibility/probability?
Ensoulment is what happens when your DNA absorbs enough charge to become coherent and self steering enough, therefore able to survive in greater then light speed environments. From that statement you could pull out about a books worth of information. All that is testable. It is about the coherence in your DNA and aura(charge field around the body). Is this pseudo-science or a perfect balance of left brain(science)/right brain(spirituality)

scale invariance is one of those "magical words" If I hear it I get ecstatic. What have you found that is scale invariant?

I think there will always be new terms but to me the term fractal is eternal, self created, self ordering. We haven't even caught up to quantum yet though so..The schools are way behind but i'll leave that conversation for my g/f as she trying to incorporate quantum learning into the school system.

http://www.evolver.net/user/pod4/blog/errors_science_will_cost_you_your_... is the correct link and also this is the most hardcore science I know: http://www.evolver.net/user/pod4/blog/fitting_square_block_round_hole

I figured it was a shot in the dark you knowing those teachers but it was worth a shot.

Overall I think your a good guy because you hold your comment when you haven't studied it in depth. A lot of the people I talk to won't even admit that. Also it won't shatter my worldview, I know what it looks like from the outside. Its the most craziest thing i'v ever heard! Thats why I started to study it so much. What, you can explain and measure spirit? You can explain to me the shapes I was seeing as I was dying! What! talk about ecstatic! So its understanding. I can tell you this though. Have a near death experience and see the folding algorithm of your DNA non-destructively compressing and feeling INTENSE HEAT. Compression creates heat if it isn't fractal. Nothing anyone could say could take away that experience. Also how it relates to death? They say lucid dreaming is a test for death....non-destructive compression means you take your memory and your body plasma with you after death.

About the Hebrew, The torus is the only self organizing shape in the universe. People talk about a lot of different "things" in the universe, there is only one "thing" in the universe. So what do we have left to talk about? SHAPE. Mainstream science is even talking about this. So how do you remember what angle you are at on an infinite torus? You use an indexing system which is the tetra angle. To symbolize is to embed. The 2D language is a symbol of how to embed plasma=LIFE. Important point to understand is at the Hebrew angles(tetra) are power of 2 which is destructive interference. That is why a Hebrew priest can pronounce the words correctly(phonon holograph)and visualize the letters(visual hologram)correctly to make a golem or life less shell. It can not create ensoulment though(constructive interference) For that you need a dodecahedral language. Have any of those laying around? If you want to test that I know an address in Prague where there is an ancient golem guardian on watch, I think I would leave that one alone though. Hebrew is a DNA programing language used to make gold mining slaves but Enki added a little extra didn't he;) Catch the show about ancient aliens on the history channel last night? So science has its place but it is rigid, there needs to be room for some outside the box ideas.

Also mainstream science has found that if you take Sumerian and shine a laser through it, it creates sub cell organelles? The scientist saw it in his microscope! I don't have the link for that off the top of my head. The link for the roots of alphabet is here though:http://www.goldenmean.info/dnawave/

Thanks for your thoughtful response and it also gave me a chance to refresh on some things. Have a lot of sources to go over how do you pick!? I will bump 6 easy steps up on my list of readings. Also if you think anything to be pseudo science-relying on your ability to disprove it rather then you proving it, call it out. I hold the truth highest, the worse thing that can happen is growth. Also I challenge you to look into some of goldenmean.info With a critical eye and an open heart. You are in the position of great power and you will be held to a higher responsibility. Now that we know empirically what life and enlightenment is and how to measure and create it it should be taught in schools. Especially since the big test of compression may be coming up shortly.

On a final note about the 'Randomness of Hebrew". There is a way to self order Hebrew so that there really is no randomness to it. I heard somewhere a quantum system looks like randomness?Said a different way, you can use the symbols to define themselves. Anywhere you have golden mean ratio you have self order: key to fusion. Order orders itself and disorder destroys itself. Interesting how the electron gap works in quantum physics?

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Programming the Universe is

Programming the Universe is by the person who made the first quantum computer if i'm not mistaken. Talks about all the logic circuits, its really good. Are you familiar with quantum computing at all? Instead of just having a 0 or 1, on or off for each bit, a quantum computer can be on off or on and off at the same time. It starts to become exponential the more bits you have. Last time I check they had an 8 bit Q computer.

Ya Mandelbrot is awesome, did you know his name means almond bread?

For me the "power of language" is more shamanic. Fabre D'Olivet in his book-Hebraic Tongue Restored has found 4 different layers to Hebrew. There is one where you can translate it on the shape of the letter alone or using the letter forms to define themselves.

"And now consider this: ``Suppose I redefine `leg' to have the same meaning as `coffee cup'." This comes up a lot for me. Thats why I think its most important to define the words one uses in a concise way.

Thats cool stuff about the isometries. Also do you know about the iso duals I think its called? All the Platonic solids can perfectly nest within each other. If you take the centers of an icosahedron and connect them all, you get the dodecahedron and vice versa. If you take the Cube and do the same you get the Octahedron. I wish i could see youtube videos! Im on an old computer so its laggy, I can only hear the sound. Also the top down view of DNA is a Dodecahedron. That shape shows up in a lot of places.

I wonder why there is no equation of that type for a fifth degree polynomial? I wonder if it has anything to do with the symmetry of five? Have you seen the equation for phi?

( 5^½ + 1 ) / 2 = 1.6180339... = Phi

This is where it starts to get really weird. Phi^2 = Phi + 1. WHAT! It is the only number that is arithmetic and geometric at the same time! You can add one to get the next power of it or multiply it by itself to get the next..

Phi, curiously, can also be expressed all in fives as:
5 ^ .5 * .5 + .5 = Phi

It seems you cannot separate phi and phive. I wonder if you could find a quantic equation if you somehow used phi? Put surely someone would have tried it by now!

All the the shows like ghost hunter..I don't know its laughable to me those shows. To me thats not science. A ghost can only show up in the most fractal part of a place. Fractality is measurable. So thats very easy, go to these haunted places and test for fractal. Why do the African tribes say that in the center of there tribe(my picture)which is fractal, that they are in contact with there ancestors(ghosts). Me i'm not all that interested in ghost but some people are. I also feel the same way about myth busters. They could do a much better job but of course its for TV. So are you one to mix religion with science? I think Steven Strogatz would be interested in the science of synchronicity. I hear the Navy is making some type of synchronicity machine to see the future. Also I hear that the movie Pi is the story of what happened to Dan Winter. I love that movie.

f_n = 0.07/n, WTF! That is nuts. That makes a lot of sense how you explained that. I can't explain it well but I know language to be a function of DNA. Also have you heard of the Dogon tribe? http://www.themasterofspeech.com/overview.html

Benford's Law is also interesting. I think I will apply that to some 7 equations I was working on. There is some weird stuff going on with 7. You are into Ramanujan also? You should make more mathematics blogs! Have you seen the weird equation proving 9/1 isn't 9?

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Also this is a work in

Also this is a work in progress.

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Theories of Everything

I have studied both Dan Winter's and the Meru Foundation's work. I don't think it is productive to restage any of the metadrama around this work, but I will assert that the work of the Meru foundation is in a different category than Winter's. The Meru Foundation work is elegant, traditional, and scientific - it has been repeatedly been vetted and confirmed - both historically and experientially. Dan's work is only superficially similar to the Meru work, but it doesn't deliver. At least, not to me, many I have spoken to, and experts in these domains.

As for the meat - How much do you respect the intelligence of the ancients? If they did come up with anything important, maybe even their 'theory of everything' how might they have transmitted it? What kinds of things were they studying in Plato's Academy?

Postulating that the Sacred Alphabets - sanscrit, aramaic, greek, and hebrew - were /designed/ as formal systems for notating experience is a leap of faith, but bootstrapping has always been part of science.

Anyway, this isn't the forum to recreate the entire theory, but I recommend that people actually watch some of Stan Tennens presentations and judge for themselves how important his (re)discoveries are - to both inner and world peace,

I'm happy to elaborate if anyone wants to contact me offline.

cheers,
/Jonah

I agree. Meru foundation has

I agree. Meru foundation has done some wonderful work. Its on a whole different level. To me it has more of a religious bend to it? As long as you understand it is a (re)discovery then we are in agreement on that subject. I would be very interesting in your point of view about Dans work not delivering though. Tenen himself admits hes against the Golden mean ratio. Have you seen both sides of the story? Dan is the one who created the actual equation for the flame letter. Tenen only had "a spiral" thats as far as he got with it. Also he admitted on camera that it should be a secret for the priesthood only?

As for the meat - How much do you respect the intelligence of the ancients? If they did come up with anything important, maybe even their 'theory of everything' how might they have transmitted it? What kinds of things were they studying in Plato's Academy? Thats a ripe question. Making a new post just for that would be awesome!

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the one and the many

Hey,

I have tried a few times to dive into Dan's work, and frankly, I find it unintelligible. Now, if you are talking about the tradition he builds upon - Sacred Geometry, (C|K|Qu)aballa(h), mysticism, physics, Synergistics, and the reflexive universe, that's another matter entirely. Stan credits a very similar tradition - http://www.meru.org/readlist.html

Some of this comes back to the question of your perspective on sacred geometry in the first place. From my readings, I understand this as a system of metaphors which are intended to capture and represent fundamental relations, cycles, and processes without the typical adornment of myth, nature - just pure topology.

Stan is the first to admit that if you squint at any asymmetrical spiral you can discern letters - that's not the point and is actually inside out. One central claim of this system is that sacred alphabets were designed as formal notational systems meant to transcribe and record experience. This claim has a number of components and combines a number of hypothesis - historical, metaphysical, and scientific. Really, its alot to disentangle, and its wholistic work so there is no obvious starting point, but there is an awful lot there.

I'm not really sure where Dan Winter's work is going, or more importantly, why. Does his work help you fathom and understand how the one becomes many? Does it function as a bridge, between east/west, religious/secular, inner/outer? I can barely understand his work myself, never mind explain it to others an witness its bridging and healing capacity. I can say this is what I have seen from the Meru findings, but I am not sure how far we can get in this medium.

The Meru foundation has heard of phi... Their work has extended from the golden mean to a spiral that represents the mapping of infinite singularity to the infinite expanse of all-there-is. These aren't only aesthetic considerations, but ones based on historical texts that substantiate these choices.

BTW - every number is a magic number ;-) Lately I've been wondering about an imaginary universe where the values of pi and e switched places. Much smaller circles but everything grows really fast?

It will be unintelligible

It will be unintelligible for awhile. It brings you to face yourself, and to and through chaos. There are a lot of pit falls on the way that could shut a person down. I think the web site is different from most and why people have so much trouble going through it is because it is hyper-indexed. Every single instance of a concept on a page is linked to another source. You have to follow the dots. If your not willing to put in the work from the start, that is reading every single page and understanding every single concept then you won't get much out of it. I decided to make the commitment and read every single page and watch every single video so I would have a different view of it. When I first started I wanted to give up. How could I understand a problem that Einstein didn't even get? It took a good 6 months before I could even get my bearings then I started over from scratch.

Also you have to have certain experiences before you will appreciate the language used. Its about bliss practice. Follow your bliss. You want to understand the geometry of language? Yes Tenen has some important work but not even close to Winters. All the major languages examined and also angelic languages. When you want to understand from an architectural point of view how do you create life? When you want to understand the mechanism and cause of ALL Universal centripetal self organizing and neg-entropic forces where do you find that? If you have sources that explain it in a more concise language please tell me. So if the student never has there original questions in mind what use is the answer to those questions?

You say you understand gravity? Then create it. You say you understand phase conjugation then make two south poles of a magnet attract. Where else is this information? Please tell me if you know.

So personally to me it is a guide to embedding. Becoming one with. To symbolize is to embed. Its not just a metaphor to me.

That book list is awesome! I have a few of those books.

"Stan is the first to admit that if you squint at any asymmetrical spiral you can discern letters - that's not the point and is actually inside out." All I know is he never had any equations to his theory and that is in his own words. Also the work is simply a rediscover so how can you have ownership of that? You can't copy write ideas, only your expression of that idea. What he did is like If I created pottery of the pi symbol and tried to own it.

"One central claim of this system is that sacred alphabets were designed as formal notational systems meant to transcribe and record experience." Where is this from? From my interdisciplinary studies I know Hebrew to be a programming language of DNA. Those who seek will find.

All of Winters work can be summed up in one sentence: Infinite non-destructive compression. The way I look at it is the many becoming one. I have personal experience of Gnosis, or becoming one with knowledge. Love for instance. You can measure love in eeg/ekg. Do you know what these means? It becomes teachable!! Electrically compassion is non destructive compression! So yes the golden mean ratio is a bridge, it has been show to be scale invariant therefore able to be transferred into any scale! The original primal definition of "bridge". What happens when both of your brain hemispheres are in golden mean ratio? You get perfect sharing. Perfect left/right brain balance. The world champ in memory can remember 49 decks of card looking at each card for one second. He is a student of Swedish biofeedback school and also admits to taking phase conjugate material or the philosophers stone and many other names it goes by. From all of my studies in this area I have been able to have telekinesis twice. I now know the scientific definition of what it takes to be telekinetic. That is rather technical though.

Also in the realm of healing. What is the definition of cancer? Simply the cells lose there ability to communicate or "share". Why is a normal cell in the golden mean ratio an egg shape and a cancer cell spherical?
http://goldenmean.info/cancer/

"If embedding as a measurable wave function creates touchability for cells, it
then defines THE OPPOSITE OF CANCER, and thus predicts in immediate
practical terms how to cure it.." interesting.

This is the stuff only usually taught in ancient schools and secret societies. Let the flood gates open.

The reason the Hebrew priest don't want us to know about golden ratio is because the cat would get out the bag about all there dirty little secrets and how we all were bred for gold mining. I saw him say it is a secret only for the priesthood. As soon as you try to bring self empowerment is when you have a problem though.

"Lately I've been wondering about an imaginary universe where the values of pi and e switched places. Much smaller circles but everything grows really fast?"

I somewhat understand e but not the pure principle of it. Have you seen the equation that brings e-phi-pi? together? I can just remotely fathom that statement! lol Could you PM me with more understandings of e? Also do you know anything about the "Cosmic language" or the bird language? Or Spanish?

Money-a symbol for the efficient distribution of human energy.

let us keep subjects flowing

Thanks to all for the recent stimulating, cross section of thoughts. So many takes and so many wakes. Hard to surf them all in a "shadow of a hair's turning". Foremost i would add the concept that humans are traditionally encumbered by languages essentially bound by metaphor. Bits and pieces are compounded and foundered. I believe this also affects math and art as well. Not to despair, but clearly to beware. Of over-indulging one fixation overall.

Bucky's Synergetics made most sense to me by listening to his audio lectures, while probing the geometry directly, as with modern 3D CAD. I love that New England accent and cultural content. Also the early internet shared many insights between scholars and self-students alike. I also recall Dan's early webpage, that seemingly endless page of his. At that time 3D CAD was very expensive to start from scratch, on low income. That he ultimately gets sued might show the risks of sailing on high seas. On the other hand, the hard knocks school provides other rewards. One has to adjust attitudes and stratospheres. Good for him that he got some sort of connections and progress out of it. Bucky also ran into claims of semi-plagiarism, with Snelson. Though the spoked wheel and even derricks eclipse static, structural uses of the principles behind tensegrity. Bucky takes credit through integrating effective language of the principles involved. Also his insistence on 'comprehensive' which to me implied integrated whole-ism, even for technology and design science.

All i sought was a few art jobs, expecting little from academia, ever. Pay a few bills, make the wife happier, invest in self-suffficiency for decades passing. Head away from the grid and the matrix. (Well in progress by age 21, way, way back). Payback is never pie in the sky, with so many detours and stumbles, of so many sorts. This may allow peace of mind to wander, to ponder all the countless deep subjects. Finally, the internet let's people share deep thoughts, without a maze of toll booths. Well, for the time being, at least. Blog on.

The principle involving interference, fits many interests of mine. The latest involves that suppressed area of physics loosely termed "free energy". (Ahh, the simple lack of more effective cross-cultural language here). According to the Hutchison Effect, the very structure of matter is has been disassociated. Even levitation also has been observed. Experiments appear to have been replicated. Hutchison has stated on podcasts, that interference of frequency- combinations and varied electrical magnitudes are apparently the controls used. Circuits for interference are somewhat elucidated with the radio-term heterodyne. Hutchison's approach has largely delved into heavy hardware, especially use of vacuum tubes, more recently. The implications of the golden mean formula are less clear to me.

No doubt that helices are the key to induction and and many principles therein. The implementation of forms and functions, is the key. As much as i understand it. I love 3D geometry for this reason. I also love the pursuit of principles. As a kid, i loved 'Heathkits', the original American kit-builder's brand. Today, enough electronics gear is trashed, to recycle one's own materials of many kinds. If the poor and 'unconnected' find a life base to live on and also a no-nonsence path to follow. If it can be mastered in time's constraints. On and on.

The wisdom of the ancients is the foundation of "shoulders to stand on". I love them, but recognize that many unsung heroes were not recorded and generally forgotten. Witches were burned at the stake, spurred by primitive proprietary business monopolies. Recent inventors and real-healers are thwarted or were killed out right. Also the Library of Alexandria was burned by empire ignorance, utter police state and priestly mania. Who knows how many other good works are destroyed by greed and plunder? I think it best to give credit where due, but to apply humility to expectations of absolutism in scholarship. To seek principles, ultimately unencumbered by ego issues.