Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain

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Politics like any other institution relies on paradigm maintainence and collective acquiesence to authority and expertise, with inherited and unquestioned assumptions and game rules. The game will run so long as everyone agrees to acknowledge the validity and value of those rules, or until they get hungry. Platitudes and cliches are typically the first line of attack against dissent, which act to mollify the other players, and serve to denigrate the opines of dissent through ad hominen association and dogmatic reitteration, rather than by an genuine act of communicatory progress. Classic 'debate'.

Dæmoncracy, assuming a philosophical purity, requires that the citizens (which the elected are supposed to be representative of) have information available to them to serve sufficient in the mediation and actuation of their votive decision. Secondly, they must not only be able to accurately parse that information but subsequently construct a 'realistic' temporal understanding from it.

Neither of those two conditons exists in our current (S)tate (and perhaps cannot), nevertheless the memegineers promolgate the notion of our dæmoncracy as THE historical endpoint, almost as a moral attainment, whilst only paying the most basic lip service to what such an ideal democracy genuinely requires. In parallel, people typically behave according to the expectations of their cultural background, socio-economic circumstance and intellectual pretensions, whilst drowning in the noise of manipulative emotives and vapid mis/disinformations that crowd out the signal of necessary information (obviously in the absolute sense this is a naivete, in that information always has bias).

These observations exist external from the darker awareness that the (usually) polar, side-shifting political mafias (at least the ones that have any kind of real power), whilst feigning ideological concerns, are in fact self-serving egotists and servant brokers (even when unknowing) for non-local, amorphous, essentially international, financial mafia and shadowed aristocracies, ones that are the inevitable by-products of our usurious currencies, that fix wealth and power to the vested interests of entrenched historical institutions and privilege.

It is very difficult for a person to make an accurate assessment because we are so heavily embedded in the game, through lifelong indoctrinations and the necessities of survival. We find it very hard to look at it from an external perspective, because to find that perspective unfortunately(?) one has to have become alienated from it to a greater extent. We typically avoid such alienation and such personalities because they often lead to social apoptosis. Confronting the myth of the 'good' will always get one into to trouble, because the mass of people have associated with that myth and take any dissent, essentially, as a personal affront to their character.

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Ahh !

Yet another refreshing perspective and post .
You may find it gratifying that upon discovery of your earliest posts , I advocated everyone "time travel" back from the "recent" section to "last"
page in order to rediscover all that has been already written here , but obscured by no longer being displayed on the "current" page.
glowing sheep's eyes in the dark is a particularly apt image as well !

;P eace !
" A rising tide - drowns those without boats " - Cee Are
"The object under your feet is always the dance floor " - Cee Are

The new boss, same as the old boss

This is as old as the rise of Communism or perhaps even going back further to the rise of Democracy under Neapolitan. One tyrant simply replaced by another. Yawn, it worked then but the collective awareness of the trap has risen, "We wont get fooled again".

Are we genuinely trapped in constructs that maintains the status quo. Yes, and these paradigms need to be redesigned, re-engineered and in some cases dismantled but if your telling me you (you, being anyone proposing such nebulous ideas) have the only way or are proposing that your way without clearly defining what that is, is the way, then I'm certain it contains a trap and in the end the intent is to be one of the bosses. So, what exactly do you want changed and how?

I hate to use the words of the conservatives but they say.

"If you do not stand for something, you will fall for anything."

Well, I'm not falling for it. Actually I think mostly what has been said is, "I'm not happy and I want change" and little else in a 100 words+.

You did say you wanted to debate didn't you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q&feature=related

The black sheep is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath

No matter how well it is cloaked.

Actually in this situation it appears to be the:

http://sokheounpang.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/wolf-in-sheeps-clothing1...

Fair points well taken

I feel I only posted an observational ramble, perhaps a talking point. All your points are valid and although caustic, useful. I made no propositions and I realise analyses without solutions are mainly futile and in themselves historically reitterative.

If I want anything changed in the context of this little screed, it is just that people might pay more attention to the durge of manipulation that surrounds them, only then can they make valuable decisions.

Ironically, I considered bringing sociopathy into it, those individuals I call dysempaths (http://www.evolver.net/user/moontrap/blog/blundering_blindly), but it can be too easy to blame thems that profit darkly from such situations, if blame there is at all.

I wondered on that point wether democracy can inhibit the rise of the sociopath more than other 'modern' political systems, being that I sense that was always part of the ideological intention.

'a weed in the narcissist's garden'

I'd suggest -

-that perhaps consensus works better than demoncracy.
I've found it very difficult to remain aware of all the avenues of manipulation Without becoming subject to the same .
Better sheilding perhaps ?
" A rising tide - drowns those without boats " - Cee Are
"The object under your feet is always the dance floor " - Cee Are

So, what exactly do you want changed and how?

.......

manifestos make me anxious..

...see embedded link

What is wanted.

Well Harbringer, you can assume just because someone says they want change but not say what the changes are exactly means they want to be power or simply that they want discussion on the topic in order to find something that makes the majority happy.

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