Self-Sustainability & Growing Food versus Government Policy

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When we talk about solutions to the worlds problems often times self-sustainability and permaculture tend to be a hot topic, the ticket, and almost a given. But again, I ask you, how do you protect it? If you have no contract or don't control your contract and find yourself subject to the arbitrary nature of someone elses contract, i.e. the Constitution under the 14th amendment, etc... How can you possibly expect to keep or control anything you build from here on out? If a thing was never yours to begin with, if continued upkeep on whatever you're presently maintaining or planning to maintain, is all built with borrowed resources to which you pay taxes to cover mere interest on. Then whatever it is you think you "own" is an illusion and fantasy. Then whenever it comes time to pay the devil his due or put the pieces back in the box; Can there ever be any doubt as to what shall happen next when this bell tolls?

I'm not saying we should ever stop growing our gardens and building Earthships and the like as there are three keys to freedom, you must first have your health and well being. Your abilities are next; economics and other 'ability' to resource gather so that you can maintain your health and well being, which growing your own food well fits into. But the final one is self governance, requiring self-determination which in turn must be self-evident. Fore as I see things, this is the only way to protect the other two, else be re-publicked inside someone elses republic; granted civil rights which can be un-granted and everything right down to what you think is your commercial identity stripped away at the whim of whichever jurisdiction assumes title over that Trust. (no, they don't have to wait for RFID to do this)

I'm sure the video below to many of you will seem an atrocity. But public discussion around it likely won't ever address this mans failure to understand the conditions of his residency. The failure to understand the codes and regulations which he's already agreed to, proofed by his residency and citizenship status, i.e. consent of the governed, is now being pressed just for the sake of being pressed by the code enforcers who can since he already consented. So of course this will be and has already been perceived as some type of injustice, right? But is it really?

Currently, there may be no way of telling exactly how this case will turn out, but I can assure you that more of this is to come if the conditions are continued to be ignored. In time, persons who find themselves in such positions will too find themselves with their backs to the wall, herded into a corner, and utterly annihilated by Uncle Sam's club. All just so we can sit around and call ourselves Americans, practicing that patriotic past time and religion otherwise known as Nationalism. Well if people want to say that government is not God, then they must behave as though they truly believe it themselves.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Winston Churchill

I shudder at this prospect and I know my call for Self-Determination goes largely unheard by most, perhaps people fall under assumption and presumption only pretending to know what this means, perhaps it's such a foreign concept it can't be heard, I don't know. Or, if one were born a slave and were taught to be a good slave, as well as falsely believe that this is what freedom is, then perhaps it's the latter. Please, take a moment to consider these words and to compare them to your present condition. Odds are already against you, as they always were and as the final hour approaches so to does this "precarious chance of survival".

"If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence, they refuse to govern themselves, then most assuredly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside..." - Theodore Roosevelt

Which is exactly what's going on is it not?

"They can prevent the need of government from without only by showing that they possess the power of government from within, a sovereign can not make excuses for his failures; a sovereign must accept the responsibility for the exercise of the power that inheres in him..." - Theodore Roosevelt

The time to learn to self govern is now, the need has never been greater and the choice rests on you alone, no one can learn to self govern for you. If the gentleman below were a Diplomat or Ambassador and his home a foreign consulate, there would be no issue. He would have his immunity and protection. Well if you say you would like to be an Ambassador for Peace?; I ask you, are you prepared to pledge your life, your fortune, and your sacred honor?; Are you prepared to really be that Ambassador???

How else can you weather the storm? How else can you even band together in Unity if you remain bound separately and divided as slaves? Maybe you still think a slave uprising is gonna do it?; that this is what's needed to set you free? Is pride really so great as to refuse to accept responsibility for the freedom you seek? Dare I challenge and maintain that anything less than assuming this highest of responsibility is nothing more than a cognitive pitfall.

http://therightofselfdetermination.com?ap_id=Absalom

Comments

Crazy!

Wow, I think the guy being fined for trying to live his own lifestyle is absolutely crazy!

important questions asked

...and yet I am not sure where you are taking it - I need to re-read and re-consider much of your thoughts...

was it not Hobbes, the first political philosopher in the modern era, who stated that the state of nature, where the life of man is solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short, is a state of war of all against all. And that what is needed is a sovereign who by contract is put in charge of the subjects. And all subject are in contractual relationships with oneantoher - all signing away they "freedom" or liberty in order to leave this not-wanted state of nature.

Sure, many followed after Hobbes but to me this view still prevails today - it's been ingrained into society and our understandings of the world and how humans are - which, in my humble opion, is completely wrong.

But unless we overcome this notion - this false notion - of human nature, the state of nature and that we need someone to "help" us achieve a framework where we can all live in peace we will never be able to make the step, the necessary and important step to self-determination.

Issues like these and what you have pointed out interest me a lot - though I do not see a quick fix and to be honest, am struggling to find a "recipe" on how to go about - any ideas?

Thus, as long as there are sovereign states and we acknowledge their right to exist. As long as we allow governments (the council of men - the sovereign) to decide for us. As long we will not be able to break free. Or will we? I think this is the big question - one that has nothing to do whether we live in a (so-called) democracy, a tyranny or monarchy or what have you. The question is - how do you give power back to the people, how can people take their power back - if the system still exists and the contracts are still in place between the majority of the subjects? Those who break free - who end the contract - are no longer part of society (referring back to Hobbes in a way) - those would be the ones practising self-determination right? So where does this leave us? A two-tier society - the rebels and the slaves? And how do we get out of this?

First step: stop making excuses...

”Named your fear must be before banish it you can” -Yoda

The difference between the educated and the ignorant is the same difference between the living and the dead.

How to go about Self-Determination is a matter of figuring out exactly what it is, what it means, and studying how it's been done throughout history. It's going to have to become a staple passion in your life to self educate on it. You're going to have to become knowledgeable about history and economics on a higher level and take advantage of valuable resources for compressing your study time and increasing your abilities; i.e. responsibility, accountability...

The protocols for Self-Determination exist in international law to which every nation which exists today has agreements on and there is an established Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a template established at the UN. I know many people will look at the UN with disdain, but if they are part of your problem, ignoring them won't make things better. Me, I'm not here to judge. Assumption and presumption gets you nowhere.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights: http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml

In the Matrix Neo got help from the system. What did the Oracle say to Neo? "This is about the future, and if we're all going to get there, we all have to get there together." Something like that... the Oracle gave Neo clues but didn't help really him. He still had to do everything himself. Including going to the source and getting a peace agreement. So that Zion could exist next to the Matrix; so that "the others" who want to come out can. Recall the discussion between the Oracle and the Architect? When the Oracle asks, "What about the others, will they permitted to leave?" What was the Architects reply? "Of course, what do you think I am?", "Human?"

Of course I quoted someone who knew some truth, why quote someone who doesn't? And actually I could quote Lenin who also spoke of self determination. Why would Lenin speak of self determination? Because there is nothing special about a Republic, they're all Republics and Democracy is merely your right to chose your own tyrant. Everyone was born into it equally. This was the hand we were dealt so deal with it. http://www.evolver.net/user/sat_yoga_institute/blog/mother_all_rites_pas...

Yes, there is nothing new under the sun and this has been going on for as long as man has kept good records. One fundamental question we all must ask ourselves. Can we STOP the onslaught? There's certainly no shortage of groups who think "we" can. But how when all change begins with the self and there is a huge portion of the population not at all interested in changing, much less think for themselves. Personally, I have no confidence that the majority of the population will ever be fit to self determine. I still have reservations myself. So, if you cannot stop the onslaught what then are the alternatives? Perhaps this seems a bit obvious to me but how about? Get out of the way. Realize you're bound, find the bonds and undo them.

The reason the powers of the earth have power is because they have a contract; they have a treaty position. We've never had our own contract. Well the 55 original signers did, but that was their gig; their contract to which we all ended up the political leftovers.

The Oregon State Constitution reads, "Men, when they form a social compact are equal in right." What does that mean? It means that when men DO NOT form a social compact are NOT equal in right. So if you want rights, you have to contract for them. How else can you come to peace if you don't have an agreement as to what peace is?

Also, to stay in "feeds the beast", and it's collusion... So how do we not feed the beast and not be in collusion? Ho do we survive the commercial system we've become dependent on? How do we overcome the collusion in banking fraud? http://www.youtube.com/user/wind0wninja#p/u/10/9tX52AO1hf0

Well all banking is actually accounting. This whole thing is about accounting and account-ability. Do you have the ability to be accountable? Perhaps it's time to learn. All banking being commercial is regulated by the UCC; Uniform Commercial Code; which falls under Admiralty Maritime Law.

In the UCC there are sections which, I'm not going to go into right now. But that show that this is all dependent of your choice of Law and Forum. You never made that choice and so what you get is the default. Or if you keep filing documents with the State to which you belong then that's your choice of Law and Forum. Well if you think of yourself as a "global citizen" why file any paperwork with a little iddy-biddy State? If you want international recognition, then you need to go to an international court and be apprised of international law and international public order(IPO).

Isn't is said that no one can possibly be responsible for knowing all the law of your society? and that ignorance of the law is no excuse? Well what's more tangible? Being responsible for knowing all the public laws of a society or understanding a single treaty where It's much easier to the understand private law?

In the UCC it basically says that all the banking can be "varied by agreement". Which is how banks of other nations all deal with one another. Once we get a variation of agreement in place and come from the system. We're longer liable for the debt or the fraud. That's why you get a variation by agreement so that none of that stuff sticks to you.

How does this help the slave underclass? Well unless you can show and demonstrate that there is a path out of Egypt, they'll continue to walk the commercial desert for the next forty years for all i know. If you can't get everyone to self govern, how can there not be a this 2 tiered system? It's 2 tiered now with a very tiny minority at the top. If this is perceived as an issue then the only remedy is for many more to come out and bring balance into the paradigm. There is no switch we can flip and instantly free the planet. This new paradigm needs time to evolve. There's no overnight turnkey transformation for all of society. There's just you and the others at the same level of development.

But the NWO, Illuminati, the PTB or whomever/whatever are just men. Educated men, and they aren't going to dumb themselves down to level the playing field for everyone else, most of which could care less. In other words, they aren't going to descend so that everyone else can ascend. http://www.youtube.com/user/wind0wninja#p/u/11/M-lr4vUm6hU

If we do not try, then we shall surely fail. But if we try, and we succeed... then we shall have something we never had before... A country of our own.

“If it be the pleasure of Heaven that my country shall require the poor offering of my life, the victim shall be ready…. But while I do live, let me have a country, or at least the hope of a country, and that a free country."

“Through the thick gloom of the present, I see the brightness of the future as the sun in heaven. We shall make this a glorious, an immortal day. When we are in our graves, our children will honor it. They will celebrate it with thanksgiving, with festivity, with bonfires, and illuminations. . . .

“Before God, I believe the hour is come. My judgment approves this measure, and my whole heart is in it. All that I have, and all that I am, and all that I hope, in this life, I am now ready here to stake upon it; and I leave off as I began, that live or die, survive or perish, I am for the Declaration. It is my living sentiment, and by the blessing of God it shall be my dying sentiment. Independence now, and Independence forever.” - John Adams

The American Institute of International Law, at its first session, held in Washington on January 6, of this year(1916), under the auspices of the Second Pan-American Scientific Congress, unanimously adopted the five following Articles to be known as The Declaration of the Rights of Nations:

Declaration of the Rights of Nations

“Whereas, the municipal law of civilized nations recognizes and protects the right to life, the right to liberty, to which the Declaration of Independence of the United States adds the right to the pursuit of happiness, the right to legal equality, the right to property and the right to the enjoyment of the aforesaid rights, creating a duty on the part of the citizens or subjects of each nation to observe them; and

“Whereas, these fundamental rights, thus universally recognized, are familiar to the peoples of all
civilized countries, and

“Whereas, these fundamental rights can be stated in terms of international law and can be applied to the relations of the members of the society of nations, one with another, just as they have been applied in the relations of the citizens or subjects of the states forming the Society of Nations; and

“Whereas, these fundamental rights of national jurisprudence, namely, the right to life, the right to liberty, the right to the pursuit of happiness, the right to equality before the law, the right of the nation to exist and to protect and to conserve its existence; the right of independence and the freedom to develop itself without interference or control from other nations, the right of equality in law and before the law; the right to territory within defined boundaries and to exclusive jurisdiction therein; and the right to the observance of those fundamental rights;

“Therefore, the American Institute of International Law unanimously adopts at its first session, held in the city of Washington, in the United States of America, on the sixth day of January, 1916, in connection with and under the auspices of the Second Pan-American Scientific Congress, the following five articles, together with the commentary thereon, to be known as the Declaration of the Rights of Nations.”

I. — Every Nation has the right to exist, to protect and conserve its existence, but this right neither implies the right nor justifies the act of the State to protect itself or to conserve its existence by the commission of unlawful acts against innocent and unoffending States.

2. — Every Nation has the right to independence in the sense that it has a right to the pursuit of happiness and is free to develop itself without interference or control from other States, provided that in so doing it does not interfere with or violate the just rights of other States.

3. - Every Nation is in law and before law the equal of every other State composing the society of Nations, and all States have the right to claim, and according to the Declaration of Independence of the United States, to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them.

4. — Every Nation has the right to territory within defined boundaries and to exercise exclusive jurisdiction over this territory and all persons, whether native or foreign, found therein.

5. — Every Nation entitled to a right by the law of nations is entitled to have that right respected and protected by all other Nations ; for right and duty are correlative, and the right of one is the duty of all to observe.

David Williams @ Matrix Solutions: http://therightofselfdetermination.com/?ap_id=Absalom
Is the only person I know of to do this, you can hear an interview with his here. This is my Youtube Channel it has hours of good interviews examining the history and establishing precedence: http://www.youtube.com/user/wind0wninja#p/a/u/1/QwmTO1dws_8
And/or listen here: http://beyondthegrassyknoll.com/audio/williams.mp3

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

2011 So Cal Permaculture Convergence

This is a powerful conversation that in my opinion is the one of the few most relevant conversations worth engaging in if we are going to talk about evolution and transformation.

The Southern California Permaculture Convergence is coming up soon and if any of you are in the area I hope you will join us to engage in this related conversation in person.

www.socalconvergence.org

For now I just wanted to let you know about this powerful convergence that is coming up.

I will be back later to read all the comments and maybe make a few of my own to engage in this conversation that I am very passionate about.

Thanks you Absalom for your thought provoking post.

I try...

And perhaps what you find here is something you can take with you to the Convergence.

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

I totally agree with you...

But I think that self-sustainability/non-compliance is the right direction to begin moving in. We cannot work through the system or reform the system. That is a dangerous trap. How will we keep them from just coming and burning our gardens and taken our land? I don't know. But I have faith. This is not just a physical war but also a spiritual war. To stay trapped within their energy matrix grid means that your spirit as well as your body is trapped. Getting off the grid gives you a change at freedom. It is imperitive for you just as a individual. Look at the dollar bill and see the evil Illuminati symbolism. If that is what you depend on as your lifeblood, then surely your soul will never be able to cross over into higher dimensions. If we build a haven, it will have protection from divine forces beyond this world who want to help us. If we stop complying, it will inspire police and soldiers to stop complying. But we must be the inspiration. I had a dream that there's going to be a successful revolution in the mountains of Nothern California. They tried to squash the off-grid communities but they couldn't, because much of the military had defected, and a lot of military vets who knew how to use military tactics were fighting back against them. They lost. We won. So follow your own dream, follow your own heart, and you will be lead to safety.

>:)

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