The Evolver Social Movement vs. The Venus Project

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Well, here's a list of things that I like better about The Evolver Social Movement as opposed to The Penis Project:

*ESM is more transparent.
*ESM has no apparent ties to the government or any governmnet organization.
*They allow for greater diversity, it seems.
*They allow members to organize into women's groups or other types of groups if they want, instead of suppressing them.
*I like local autonomy better than a globalized, technocratic one-world government.
*I like permaculture better than fully automated hydroponic farm facilities.
*Daniel Pinchbeck actually asks us for our opinions instead of just pushing out an agenda like an authoritarian.
*I've never heard anyone from Evolver make blatantly racist and sexist comments.
*Daniel Pinchbeck, even though I have criticized him, has never told me to go fuck myself (which Douglas Mallette just did, after I asked him a series of reasonable questions he couldn't answer, such as questions about their involvement with the UN and what is his opinion about Agenda 21).
*As far as I can tell, ESM is not part of the New World Order.

Cool. Maybe I'll actually go to a meeting someday.

>:)

If you don't believe me that The Penis Project is evil, watch the video below.

Here's the questions I asked Douglas Mallette on Facebook today, in response to the controversy over the video I linked here. He never answered me, but simply told me to "go fuck myself."

Me:
"Since when does the United Nations care about feeding people? Why would they do that? The United Nations was founded by the ruling elite for the purpose of consolidating into a one world government. They are not a good force in the world and never have been. So why would you want to work with them or think that they would do anything good? Are you just completely stupid and ignorant, or are you a Nazi eugenicist who's actually already working together with the United Nations? I'm just asking because, by logic, you have to be one or the other. So I was just wondering if you could explain which one you are."

"And if it's true that you're fighting against the ruling elite, then why would the ruling elite's army ever help you out or be on your side? I was wondering if you could explain that one as well."

"Oh yeah, one more question. Why would anyone in a starving country want to bomb a building that's being used to grow food? Wouldn't they and their family also benefit from the food? It seems to me like the only reason why somebody in a starving country would want to blow up a building built by the United Nations is because they're trying to fight against a fascist one-world government that's trying to take over their country, which would mean that they would be labeled a 'terrorist' and destroyed by the army. In fact, your pet eugenicist physicist Nazi scientist Michio Kaku says that anybody who's against the New World Order is a terrorist. Would you agree with that view Douglas?"

Douglas Mallette:
"Boadie and Alan - Funny how you two 'like' each other. Get a room.

This is kinda funny though, because no matter what I say, neither of you will stop with your stupid accusations and complete retardation.

So, to keep it simple...go fuck your...selves. :)

After all, nothing else I say will matter, so I might as well finish off with a bang."

Here's the whole thing on Facebook. It's open to everybody. It will make more sense if you watch the video first:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/douglas-mallette/responding-to-idiotic-vid...

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Well...

If he wanted to create a "holy shit moment" then he certainly succeeded.

A Zeitgeister...

... named Jay, who seemed quite polite and reasonable, asked me to explain exactly what my problem is with TZM/TVP. Here's what I said in response:

Jay: Well, I wasn't going to promote my own article here, but since Sally already linked it and since you asked me to elaborate, I might as well just link my article for you again because it basically explains everything:

http://planet-mantis.blogspot.com/2011/02/from-hitler-to-venus-venus-pro...

I know that I'm making some serious accusations here, but I'm making them because I honestly believe they're true. When I first heard about 9/11 being an inside job, I thought that was crazy too (even though I personally observed the fact that it looked like a demolition on the day it happened). But then I watched a few documentaries and realized how true it is. In much the same way, what I'm posing here, under no uncertain terms, is that The Venus Project is working with the United Nations to further their one-world government agenda. The Zeitgeist Movement is there to co-opt us.

I used to be a huge fan of TVP, but then I started waking up to what is really going on. Part of my wake-up process began with Douglas Mallette here, who as you can see, has a massive ego and a major persoanlity problem, as evidenced by his comment about annihilating resisters and the fact that he just told me to go fuck myself. Then I stumbled across some You Tube videos and started doing more research into them and their connection with the United Nations, which is beginning to make them look quite nefarious.

I used to be physically involved in a socialist organization. After a while, I started noticing similar problems with the leadership being authoritarian and having subtle hints of racism and sexism, as well as the fact that they don't listen to anybody else because they think they know everything, and instead of having a conversation they're just trying to push their agenda on you, and as a member you're not really allowed to have your own opinion, despite what they say. I quit the organization, and a few years later discovered that whole socialist movement, historically, was funded by the CIA anway and probably still is for all I know. I went through a similar waking up process through my online experience with TZM, first noticing the fact that the leaders are total penis heads, and then learning about the true history behind what they're really involved in.

So I know you might not want to believe this, but these are my legitimate concerns, and I am not the only one. There are many good individuals just trying to make the world a better place who are saying the exact same thing about TZM/TVP, that this is a government operation. Whether or not Mallette himself is really aware of this, I don't really know, but it's quite clear that his massive ego will not even allow him to question what he is involved in, in any case. I think you made some very good suggestions to him but I doubt he cares about your advice because he's the leader and you're the follower and you're supposed to just shut up and listen to him, which is pretty much the attitude I got from him when I tried to talk to him--very nicely, at the time--within the women's group here on FB. So whether or not he's aware of what's really happening is irrelevant to me at this point as it's clear that he's nothing more than a tool of the NWO in any case.

Peace out.

>:)

Sounds like this 'Zietgiest

Sounds like this 'Zietgiest Movement' is too good to be true and that it has flaws.Like the NWO ,it is dependant on who runs the system.Some of the things they mention are real :Too many people living in the world,not enough foodstuffs and fresh,clean water.But I believe we all can make a differance If we work toward tolerance,Learn about other's cultures,religions ,customs etc. Work WITH nature instead of against.Dictatorships do not work with nature .They make things worse.Our country[USA] has lasted over 200 years because of the way the Contitution is set up.It takes into account the the men who worked on it were not perfect so they made it so if need be it could be "tweecked' or inproved upon .What we need to do is get rid of the 'shadow government .That would free us from all the bullsh*t that it has been doing all this time.

The average lifespan of a

The average lifespan of a nation is 219 years. The US is at 224 since the creation of the Constitution so actually we're overdue.

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

TVP and the UN

Who is Douglas Mallette?

Have you seen this whole interview? It's the one in which he talks about using the military to "annihiliate" people in third world countries who might want to oppose the actions of the UN in their countries. But he also talks about the fact that he's working with the United Nations now.

He just got back from a conference in Switzerland, with an organization called "Initiatives of Change." If you go to their web site, it says it is "an NGO in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations." (Remember that a few months ago TVP also starting working with an NGO in Greece.) It used to be called "Moral Re-Armament." It was formed after WWII, around the same time that the UN itself was formed. He's "not quite sure what kind of organization to call it."

At this meeting, there were representatives from around the world. For example, he bragged that within the first two hours he met a consultant to the king of Cambodia. (There were lectures about initiatives in Saudi Arabia too.) He got a business card from somebody from the Geneva Office Director of Program Development for the United Nations. He says he learned this strategy of "infiltration" from Jaqcue Fresco. The goal of all this is supposedly to solve the problems of world hunger and environmental destruction. He thinks that instead of teaching people how to grow their own food, they should build fully automated hydroelectic farming facilities.

Ultimately, they want to build "test cities" to see if a resource-based economy will work. Only it won't be an RBE, because it's being built with money from government funding, within the context of the monetary system. But it will bring them one step closer to their "RBE" in which they will have their "total resource management system" over the whole Earth.

For entertainment, they had something called "the problem-resolution theater."

He says he was "well-received" at the conference. I posted another clip in which he officially announced that he's heard back from the UN, and they are going to be working together. Several weeks ago I predicted that would happen, becauase they've actually been working with the UN all along. Fresco has ties to the UN going back to the 60's. I also posted a clip of PJM on the Alex Jones show and he said that the police, military, an even the ruling elite themselves are going to be on their side once they see the rationality of TVP! Oh, really?! So they don't want to overthrow the system, they want use USE the system, on THEIR side! Because they're actually just spreading propaganda for the ruling elite, and co-opting people even deeper into their system, as they try to make this transition to having total control over the Earth's resources.

VtV mocks the idea of there being a New World Order, and promotes the idea of a "global effort," meaning working through the United Nations. Their whole strategy is work through the same system they claim to be fighting against.

By the way, on Douglas Mallette's Facebook profile it says that he works for Boeing. BOEING!

Full interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ah22FWIRdc

Mallette wants to "annihilate" enemies of the UN, using the military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Y9KO-l-T0

Mallette confirms that TVP is working with the UN. You hear it in the last minute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7BvPq0WIOI

Ultimately....

You have to save yourself. It's not about being in an organization which is actually a business with a registered trademark and you just decided to take on their trademark. It's about becoming self-sustainable and saving yourself from the nefarious scheme of this New Word Order.

Zeitgeist Zombies... WAKE UP!

These Luciferian, Theosophical Society, United Nations NWO Nazis have you hypnotized!

Don't you get it, when it's right there in your face? He's talking about using the *military* to "annihilate" third world people who oppose the actions of the UN in their country. So, if somebody wants to destroy the "food farming facility," it's going to be, "No questions, no jury, you're toast."

You people who are still following The Venus Project are idiots. This has NWO written all over it, especially when they deny the existence of the NWO and laugh at all the "conspiracy theory nut jobs."

Wake up from your hypnotic state and see what is happening here, please.

You have been hypnotized. Wake up!

I have no faith in anything our "founding fathers" wrote up. The central banks funded both sides of the "Revolutionary" War, just like they funded all sides of WWII (and WWI), as well as Hitler himself who was also funded, so they could terrorize people and form their United Nations. The US government actually never broke from the British Monarchy, and in fact, most of our presidents have direct blood ties back to the British Monarchy. Many CEO's and politicians have familial or business ties back to the Nazis.

The Luciferian, Satanic Nazis ARE the central bankers who formed the United Nations--which has always been connected with Lucis Trust, which used to be called Lucifer Trust--who want total control over all the Earth's resources. They're only using money as a tool. Now they want to dissolve the monetary system, dissolve all the nations, and have their one-world government with a "total resource management system" over the whole Earth, the Resource-Based Economy.

Don't you get it? ALL of you people need to wake-up. All you patriots, all you Zeitgeisters, all you atheists, all you New Agers, all you "shamans," all you "Christians," ALL of you sheeple need to WAKE THE FUCK UP! You are under the spell of Satanic Nazis and you need to wake the fucking hell up!

<3 Peace <3

I love you all.

>:)

I was

- involved in ZGM early on , before the first on credited Peter Joseph film appeared on the internet ( the one the locals all try to supress - since it was meant as a shock piece to create controversy and is no longer deemed useful)
I dropped out when I realized that they all belived in the same things their hidden former associates belive in.
Though they take great pains to deny their associations , this did grow out of the "Technocracy" and also the "eugenics movements".
They ARE "rational materialists" who just want to be first to institute control over the entire planet , it's people , it's resources.
All I can add at this point , there are alot of other groups with similar aims , most of them MUCH less benign than ZGM "seems".

;P eace ! (ntl)
" A rising tide - drowns those without boats " - Cee Are
"The object under your feet is always the dance floor " - Cee Are

You have to exercise

You have to exercise Self-Determination before you can build anything even remotely like this. If you use the systems resources, file documents with the state, register a corporation under their code and regulation with no variation of agreement, no treaty position, no immunity. They still own it and they can take it away.

The fact that TZM/TVP is not looking to self-determine and tooling around inside that matrix, tells me they're a sub-agent. NGO's are easily swallowed by parent IGOs.

If they came together to self-determine first, then I might see merit in their cause in spite of disagreements with their "solution". However, even Peter Joseph myself states it has to be planetary, it has to be a global worldwide plan, so there is no middle ground like the Zeitgeisters claim when they say, "no one will be forced to participate..."

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlPV26sKXB0

"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

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