The Evolver Social Movement vs. The Venus Project
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Well, here's a list of things that I like better about The Evolver Social Movement as opposed to The Penis Project:
*ESM is more transparent.
*ESM has no apparent ties to the government or any governmnet organization.
*They allow for greater diversity, it seems.
*They allow members to organize into women's groups or other types of groups if they want, instead of suppressing them.
*I like local autonomy better than a globalized, technocratic one-world government.
*I like permaculture better than fully automated hydroponic farm facilities.
*Daniel Pinchbeck actually asks us for our opinions instead of just pushing out an agenda like an authoritarian.
*I've never heard anyone from Evolver make blatantly racist and sexist comments.
*Daniel Pinchbeck, even though I have criticized him, has never told me to go fuck myself (which Douglas Mallette just did, after I asked him a series of reasonable questions he couldn't answer, such as questions about their involvement with the UN and what is his opinion about Agenda 21).
*As far as I can tell, ESM is not part of the New World Order.
Cool. Maybe I'll actually go to a meeting someday.
>:)
If you don't believe me that The Penis Project is evil, watch the video below.
Here's the questions I asked Douglas Mallette on Facebook today, in response to the controversy over the video I linked here. He never answered me, but simply told me to "go fuck myself."
Me:
"Since when does the United Nations care about feeding people? Why would they do that? The United Nations was founded by the ruling elite for the purpose of consolidating into a one world government. They are not a good force in the world and never have been. So why would you want to work with them or think that they would do anything good? Are you just completely stupid and ignorant, or are you a Nazi eugenicist who's actually already working together with the United Nations? I'm just asking because, by logic, you have to be one or the other. So I was just wondering if you could explain which one you are."
"And if it's true that you're fighting against the ruling elite, then why would the ruling elite's army ever help you out or be on your side? I was wondering if you could explain that one as well."
"Oh yeah, one more question. Why would anyone in a starving country want to bomb a building that's being used to grow food? Wouldn't they and their family also benefit from the food? It seems to me like the only reason why somebody in a starving country would want to blow up a building built by the United Nations is because they're trying to fight against a fascist one-world government that's trying to take over their country, which would mean that they would be labeled a 'terrorist' and destroyed by the army. In fact, your pet eugenicist physicist Nazi scientist Michio Kaku says that anybody who's against the New World Order is a terrorist. Would you agree with that view Douglas?"
Douglas Mallette:
"Boadie and Alan - Funny how you two 'like' each other. Get a room.
This is kinda funny though, because no matter what I say, neither of you will stop with your stupid accusations and complete retardation.
So, to keep it simple...go fuck your...selves. :)
After all, nothing else I say will matter, so I might as well finish off with a bang."
Here's the whole thing on Facebook. It's open to everybody. It will make more sense if you watch the video first:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/douglas-mallette/responding-to-idiotic-vid...
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Sounds like this 'Zietgiest
Sounds like this 'Zietgiest Movement' is too good to be true and that it has flaws.Like the NWO ,it is dependant on who runs the system.Some of the things they mention are real :Too many people living in the world,not enough foodstuffs and fresh,clean water.But I believe we all can make a differance If we work toward tolerance,Learn about other's cultures,religions ,customs etc. Work WITH nature instead of against.Dictatorships do not work with nature .They make things worse.Our country[USA] has lasted over 200 years because of the way the Contitution is set up.It takes into account the the men who worked on it were not perfect so they made it so if need be it could be "tweecked' or inproved upon .What we need to do is get rid of the 'shadow government .That would free us from all the bullsh*t that it has been doing all this time.
The average lifespan of a
The average lifespan of a nation is 219 years. The US is at 224 since the creation of the Constitution so actually we're overdue.
"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."
I was
- involved in ZGM early on , before the first on credited Peter Joseph film appeared on the internet ( the one the locals all try to supress - since it was meant as a shock piece to create controversy and is no longer deemed useful)
I dropped out when I realized that they all belived in the same things their hidden former associates belive in.
Though they take great pains to deny their associations , this did grow out of the "Technocracy" and also the "eugenics movements".
They ARE "rational materialists" who just want to be first to institute control over the entire planet , it's people , it's resources.
All I can add at this point , there are alot of other groups with similar aims , most of them MUCH less benign than ZGM "seems".
;P eace ! (ntl)
" A rising tide - drowns those without boats " - Cee Are
"The object under your feet is always the dance floor " - Cee Are
You have to exercise
You have to exercise Self-Determination before you can build anything even remotely like this. If you use the systems resources, file documents with the state, register a corporation under their code and regulation with no variation of agreement, no treaty position, no immunity. They still own it and they can take it away.
The fact that TZM/TVP is not looking to self-determine and tooling around inside that matrix, tells me they're a sub-agent. NGO's are easily swallowed by parent IGOs.
If they came together to self-determine first, then I might see merit in their cause in spite of disagreements with their "solution". However, even Peter Joseph myself states it has to be planetary, it has to be a global worldwide plan, so there is no middle ground like the Zeitgeisters claim when they say, "no one will be forced to participate..."
"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlPV26sKXB0
"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."

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