Imagine What Just a Few Disobediant Sheep Could Do

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"Imagine if just a significant number, not even half, of those sheep said, 'We're not going to succumb to the theorem of the sheepdog. We're going to go our own way.'

And those sheep start going their own way, they start expressing their uniqueness, and they stop acquiescing to the authority figure and succumbing to fear. Where is the power of the shepherd now? Where's the power of the sheepdog now? They have no power, except in the acquiescence by the mass of sheep to the perceived power that they have."

~David Icke

Let us place our differences aside. Let us decide what we all agree on, and begin to build our world upon that foundation. You don't have to be right about everything, and you don't have to agree with everyone about everything. Let's just get real here. What do we all want? What do we all need? What do we have to do in order to achieve that? What can we realistically do, that we all agree with, right NOW?

Let's stop arguing about it and JUST DO IT!

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No, no, no;

You're misunderstanding how it works.

It's not about agreement or disagreement -- it's about personal relationships.

To make things that function, you need people opening themselves, their hearts, their dreams, their (differing!) ideas, and so on -- and building relationships with each other.

It's a slow process, but it's the one that works.

You want to get to a place where the people are deepening with one another, and getting involved in one another's lives, and one anothers' projects.

Then: Rather than feeling like you're arguing with people, or trying to persuade people of things, or trading with people -- you find yourself in a place where the only natural thing to do is to work together, automatically, without any resistance at all, just moved by a strong steady flow from inside.

You do that by asking, "Who are you? What are you here to do? How can we mend what is wounded? How can we free one another?"

It's a dramatically different act than asking, "What do we agree on?"

Yes? You see it?

A perfect example Lion.

Lion, Aruntabear is right. I am agreeing with you. Our message is the same. However, this false "debate" that we're having, or rather the debate that you are having with me, is a perfect example of exactly what I'm talking about!

I made a plea for unity, a plea for everyone to try to understand everybody else's point of view, and the first you did in response was ARGUE with me! How ironic! You picked apart my words, line by line, as if you were a lawyer presenting a case in court, instead of just opening up your heart and feeling the vibration behind what I'm saying.

This is the problem, and this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about! Nobody can say anything without somebody else arguing with it.

By making up an example, I'll again demonstrate how this works:

A person comes along and says, "What we need is peace."

Then somebody else comes along and says, "No, it's not about peace. It's about love. Once you have love, peace flows naturally. By trying to create peace, you're putting your focus on the wrong thing."

Then a third person comes along and says, "We must first develop compassion before we can have either peace or love, so you're both wrong."

And then there's a great big huge debate over NOTHING! I mean, what are even talking about anyway?

It is this kind of ARGUING and mental masturbation that is preventing us from developing personal connections and personal relationships.

Yes? Do you see?

I think part of the problem is that everybody, including myself sometimes, has a big fat fucking EGO that they need to learn how to GET OVER.

But that's just my opinion that I'm sure someone will disagree with.

<waving arms>

No, I disagree. "No consent." "Block."

I am making a distinction that I will protect, and that I believe can be useful to people who are striving to form societies of action; But it is a somewhat esoteric/technical point, so I can appreciate confusion. Regardless, I am not feeling heard. But perhaps it's hard for you to hear me, because I'm not hearing you right? So in the assumption that we're genuinely trying to communicate with each other, let me give you my full attention, and see if I understand you right:

I want to back up to the moment before you wrote the first post, where you stood at the edge of creation.

What is it that you are trying to do? What is it that you want to have a conversation about? What are you sensing, that you are trying to tell?

No, because I soon as I tell

No, because I soon as I tell you exactly what it is that I'm trying to do, you're naturally going to argue with me and tell me all the reasons why it's misguided or why it isn't going to work. You're just looking for more things to argue about. I can feel it. You just want something else to pick apart. You just can't wait to get your hands in there and dismantle my whole idea, item by item, from the inside out. You'll put things that I said into quotations marks and then tell me all the reasons why they're wrong. That's your whole MO. I'm sorry, but I don't feel like "communicating" on the level right now.

What I'm asking for is a higher level of communication in which everybody is not trying to make everybody else wrong. That is what I had in mind when I was standing on the edge of creation. I was imagining a community of people who can speak to each other without having to make each other wrong.

I understand that in order to do this, I have to be the first to set a good example. I don't know whether or not I'm setting a good example right now. But all I know is that I don't feel comfortable sharing my ideas with you, because I feel like all you're going to do is make me wrong, just like you did with my original post. All you're going to do is pick me apart, and I don't feel like getting picked apart. Getting picked apart does not feel good.

What I want is the same thing you want, the same thing you said. What I want is for my heart to join with your heart so that we can create a powerful vortex of energy that transcends all verbal language.

However, right now I feel separate from you because of the way you so vehemently argued against my original post. I am afraid to say anything to you because I don't want to subject myself to any more criticism, badgering, or nitpicking. I don't feel like being put on trial again.

Right now, you are challenging me to tell you what my big idea is so that you can put my big idea up on the stand and see if it can stand up to your scrutiny, which of course it will not. You already disagree with whatever it is I'm about to say because you are already engaged in the business of wrong-making. Your brain is in argument mode and that is the level on which you are operating.

What I would love is for you to remove your "Block" so that I can speak to you from my heart, and you can feel what's coming from my heart, and you can feel the essence of what I'm trying to say, and you can take that essence and feel that it's on the same level of vibration as your essence, and therefore we agree.

What I want is for you to put your scalpel away and stop dissecting my words which are ultimately meaningless because they are merely words meant to express an abstract concept which could have been expressed in a million different other ways that all would have meant the same thing. What I want is for you to let go of the need to have so many distinctions you need to protect.

In other words, I want you to let go of fear and embrace love. And I'm challenging myself to do the same thing. I want all of us to TRUST that we are ALL ON THE SAME SIDE, because I think that trust is the fundamental issue here. I want us to stop treating each other like the enemy.

Does that sound like a good idea to you?

Thank you

That sounds like a great idea, and I think we broadly share ideals here.

Would you like to hear what was going through my head, when I read your first post?

No, wait -- Better Idea:

On the theory that "trust" is what's lacking --

What can we do to develop trust between us?

What can we do to get it there?

Like: Maybe I can tell you things about myself, or maybe we can talk about things that are important to us. Anything you can imagine: What could I do, or not do, that would make you feel like you could trust me?

throwing a couple ideas in the discussion...

A statement comes to mind, what do you call a leader without followers? An individual maybe?

When the world was less populated say, in the days of Neanderthals and clan or tribal societies, its easy to agree on a unified way of looking at and doing things. Yet as the populations increase to modern day numbers and we all want to be free, its hard if not impossible to create a unified vision that all these individuals will be in accord with.

We have lost the intimate knowledge of the importance of one another. There are many reasons for this, too many to go into here. If we are not strong and focused as individuals, if we do not role model and mentor our children and community and if we succumb to our fear of monetary insecurity, then we will not be able to survive any changes and at the speed humanity is traveling at now, enlightenment and a universal sense of contentment are what is needed to combat the deepening malaise.

Boadie your vision is clear to you and you are on the right path, keep your beliefs strong.

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