Revolution? Please Explain Your Contradiction
posted by Boadie | February 17, 2011
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IcerocketEvery time I talk about overthrowing the system, even peacefully, people always say, "Oh no, you can't do that, you can't have a revolution! That's violent! That's wrong! You shouldn't talk like that. You need to calm down. You need to breathe. You need to meditate. You need to find peace within yourself and stop lashing out. Blah blah blah blah blah."
But now everyone is CELEBRATING this "revolution" in Egypt which is actually just a coup staged by the U.S. And they're celebrating because that's what the media propaganda told them to do.
And they don't even see the contradiction in their own philosophy.
Stupid fucking cattle. STUPID FUCKING CATTLE! MOOOOO!
~*~
We might disagree about what's really happening in Egypt, but at least stop contradicting yourself, for God's sake!
~*~
I still love you, even though you're a bunch of fucking cattle.
Peace.
Comments
how about
— Feb 17, 2011
starting to tell everyone that all you want and working towards is a paradigm shift...that's what I started to do (as everyone said to me as well - ah you and your revolutions) - now, however, when I say I wanna shift the paradigm or change the status-quo - they ask me how and what my ideas are :)
just a thought
Yeah...
— Feb 18, 2011
... since people have such a knee-jerk, puritanical reaction to the word "overthrow" I've now started using the word "transcend." I'll say, "It's time for us to transcend government," or something like that. But in my own personal opinion, talking like that just makes you sound like a douchebag. But if I need to sound like a douchebag in order to communicate with other douchebags then I guess I'm willing to compromise a little bit.
>:)
Okay, lets be blunt...
— Feb 17, 2011
Remember the movie the Matrix Revolutions, That movie tells you the answer. In that movie even revolution was not the answer. Zion would have been destroyed had there not been a peace agreement. This is nothing new, the same theme arises everywhere. If you just look. It wasn't even a solution for the colonies of the US. Even in your current experience right here, right now. Your frustration shown with this very blog shows how you revolve around your ideology. Which is apparently going nowhere and why you posted on this topic forthwith. The current revolution you're in is simply struggling to evolve. No one else is stuck in this rut but you and you call us cattle? lol
The reason social systems exist to because people like you and other incompetent rabble-rousers don't know how to conduct yourself peacefully, know nothing of honor or what it requires to live the way you profess to want to live. You certainly aren't demonstrating the fitness to live in an anarchic society, which is what you've professed. This doesn't separate you at all from the likes of Zeitgeist, which you've railed on relentlessly. When most of the people in Evolver are in Evolver because Zeitgeist doesn't appeal to them anyway, and you're not self governing meaning you're just as much cattle as anyone else, but since you think of yourself as excluded from the cradle to grave brainwashing and mind control falsely think you're exempt from cattle status meaning you're also a hypocrite.
See, you may think you're thinking, but so far have failed to demonstrate it. Where's your solutions? I think this blog demonstrates your solutions. It's also why you're not going anywhere and why you won't. Prove me wrong.
"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."
My SOLUTIONS...
— Feb 18, 2011
... were explained in several blogs that I put up about a year ago. But most people like you just responded by saying, "I don't want to get off the grid. I don't want to go live in a tree. I like the monetary system. I like the government. You can't overthrow the government. That's wrong." You see? It all goes back to what I was saying before. So thank you for taking this all full circle and for proving my point.
By the way...
— Feb 18, 2011
The American "Revolution" was actually funded by the central banks, and we never actually broke from the British monarchy. All of our presidents are related to the British Monarchy. And this stuff happening in the middle east is all BS too. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Yeah, they are related, its
— Feb 18, 2011
Yeah, they are related, its a family affair and they created this thing for them and them alone. No citizen has a treaty position, no citizen has a contract right, they are not party to the constitution. Which is why they're slaves to begin with.
You didn't create this thing therefore you cannot destroy this thing. Not with out extending yourself some other egregious act and if you think might makes right, you got another thing coming. That's just more of why we're here. Which is precisely why they built this military industrial complex and no, you can fight that. Squawk all you want to, since the US is currently beholden China and they have a large standing military than the entire US population, if the US falls under "domestic unrest" the UN security council can and will simply promote China to the top of the heap as the enforcement arm of the IMF. The first thing Hillary did when she took office is go to China to secure this for them.
But what you don't get is that you belong to them, threw any number of contracts which you created and if you involve yourself in insurrection the universe can only ever look at this one way. Dishonor, meaning you're the one going down first. You have no idea how the machinery works and therefore perfectly content to start all kinda of international chaos. Like a toddler in a toy store.
So long as you got this thing called citizenship hanging above you, you're subject, that's it. They own you. You wanna sit around and call yourself a citizen; call yourself an American; call yourself by name, which is merely a trustee over a number.
You don't know enough about how the world works and that's why your solutions languish. You talk about property, build this, that, and the other. But since you have no contract or treaty position, haven't come out to assume a separate and equal station among the powers of the earth to which nature and natures god provide, haven't set up your own nation state/ jurisdiction whereby you're not subject to another, whereby whatever you build still belongs to the king.
Sorry pal, that's not taking responsibility. Talk about contradictions. You're trying to both fight and run away and hide at the same time. Then to carry on about anarchism... how are you gonna settle disputes in an anarchic society? 3rd party? Oh well right there you just set up your government so that's no anarchy after all. Don't need a 3rd party to settle disputes? Well okay then, you have a dispute right now with a state to which you belong so go ahead and settle it, if you can.
Oh, that's right, you're too busy hiding behind the masses and throwing stones. Are you too much a coward to act on your own that you need the influence the masses to bend to your will? Sorry mate, I just don't see you being any different from that which you claim to be your oppressor. I'm just not impressed.
BTW, I have happen to have an excellent treehouse design. But, I want to build the congregate shelters first so I can do humanitarian aid and hopefully secure a land title somewhere so I can not be beholden to the US anymore.
But people like and most others want to attempt to take back something that was never theirs to begin with and that can only ever end one way.
Don't talk about peace and commit yourself to warfare. It's not very becoming.
"Seek not abroad, turn back into thyself, for in the inner man dwells the truth..."
In the illusion of our powerlessness we remain powerless.
— Feb 18, 2011
So do you want us to go into battle for you, with you? Need a herd to follow before you have the courage to do anything?
Here's how it's done. Pick something you give a damn about and without picking up a gun or a bomb or picket sign try and change some hearts and minds. Effective ideas, based in common sense that create hope for a better tomorrow win hearts and minds. Until you take responsibility for your believes by taking effective non violent actions nothing will change. Anarchy will change nothing, only by winning the respect of others does anyone truly win. You have all you need to win right in front of you, the big bad evil Internet ( :) ) and some good ideas.
So get out there and give them hell by changing their minds.
Here....
— Feb 18, 2011
These are my ideas, and they're not unique really. Actually, a lot of people here totally agree with me. I get a lot of negative feedback on Facebook and should probably spend less time there because it's making me bitter. I don't want it seem like I'm swinging my axe at the wrong people. I just notice how much people hate the word "revolution," and they demonize you if you dare to use the "R word," but yet they celebrate this "revolution" or whatever is going in Egypt. It just seems like a major contradiction to me. And I myself have never even suggested a violent overthrow. But yet, I have been accused of being "violent" simply for burning money or speaking out against the government. So that's what I'm bitching about, basically. Sorry to bitch so much. I love you guys. <3
http://www.evolver.net/user/boadie/blog/i_have_dream
http://www.evolver.net/user/boadie/blog/not_complicated_very_very_simple...
Egypt
— Feb 20, 2011
People celebrate the revolution of Egypt because it gives them a chance to define their own terms. Whether it happens the right way or the wrong way is unknown as of now. I am assuming you've lived in a democratic nation your entire life. Sure one form of tyranny may be replaced with another. It may be more transparent than the tyranny of their past. However maybe if they have a say in it then their form of democracy may be setup right. I think democracy can be setup in a correct manner to fit the peoples needs, It just has not happened yet. We just need to focus on moving forward and share idea's that can fix the system. If enough people fall in love with an idea then it will catch on, the unsatisfied people definitely have the numbers.
To every problem there is a solution, lurking within your subconscious.
The Kali Yuga is not our fault
— Feb 18, 2011
I am sure that everyone alive on the planet is burdened with much we feel "responsible for" yet also in the gut know we cannot be at fault for causing. It is so hard to understand what our responsibility really means sometimes.. We are response-able yes. But that is so different from being at fault. What is controlable really. Ha. Stuff that is, is what it is.
There are laws of the Universe that shape what the form in 3D looks like. It is slow and dense. So sticky and cloying and seems offensively strong smelling. Life does stink somedays.
Yet, we hear we are "perfect". Perfect for what my cynicical ego asks? But the bigger picture states clearly: there is a purpose and a reason that may be trusted. Not just for part of "me" but ALL of me is desired. Not just part but ALL of everything is requested.
Most sources that have measured the "cycle" of time from the ancient Vedic tradition say we are in the Kali Yuga. I used to think the Kali Yuga was terrible. However that was a judgement. Yesterday I had a strong intuition that Kali Yuga is quite a fine age to live in. It is just that we have not been informed well enough about living in it.
For those who want to stand on "new earth", to learn how to use the Universal laws to the advantage of evolution is the trick, I think, of successful cooperation with Gaia. The first step is to learn to love what is. How do we do that? The help full skills of the Kali Yuga may be very different than ones we have tried. We could just decide that we can do it now. Here are two thoughts today:
1. For instance: If the age is one of dark contraction, We counterbalance with arms wide open shouting out with humor, with determination to love it all anyway, with carnivals of celebration of anything and everything.
2. For instance, in an age of decay, why do we keep shoring up when the whole point is collapse? We have to counterbalance with destruction on purpose.
3. In the material age, go for the material in a big way. We have to dig in the dirt.
My intuition says to me that the antidote for the Kali Yuga is to "go mad". Be the crazy zany artist and make a really joyful noise in the messiness of the dark. Tear it up. Be very very emotional, very irrational and unreasonable, very unruly.
Apparently there was an avatar Chaitanya who around 500 years ago came to remind us to estatically dance and praise as an antidote to the Kali Yuga. His ecstasy was really irritaing to the PTB. He said that the practices of this time are necessarily different from other more spiritual times.
I used to obscess that I needed to be more spiritual. No, maybe the point is to be most material and yet to make that THE holy of holies itself. Yes, chanting and dancing sound right. But I am reminded to of the value in being what I would call incorrigibly unspiritual? That includes my rage, refusal, the beast in me? Let the beast out in everyone rather than keeping it shut in and growing ore unconscious.
I agree! We need even more carnival, more revolution, more messiness of encounters. Couldn't we really INJOY conscious dislodging and deposing the clog of morals and political politeness that overlays the ugliness of control?
The pendulum swings. The law of rhythm is always at work.
Could this be a time we were meant to dance with Kali. No one ever gave me that permission.
Maybe the whole point is that we have to take the responsibility ourselves?
Everything is Revolutionary
— Feb 18, 2011
The term "revolution" really just refers to the ever-ongoing cyclic nature of things, and not necessarily a social uprising as a separate entity. I remember from the 60 /70's how this term began to be used such ... as in join the revolution or else be a pussy for peace.
All is revolving all the time in spite of / despite any/all social engineering and or it's associated anarchy. Every thought and feeling one ever had is only due to the nature of revolution itself.
It is odd how terms begin to be defined by their social inertia over time. There are really no "powers that be" and /or pawns that are but representative of ongoing revolution.
If one stands back far enough one will see revolutionary patterns everywhere .. nothing but .. the fruits of good and evil always come full circle to different degrees.
Self-perpetuating karma ... 'hence Samsara for one and all, unless and until the Sanatana Dharma of internal spirituality realizes itself eternal unto itself ... able to know of the cycle free from it's influence.
This alone is what is behind the ecstatic dancing of Sri Krsna Caitanya of 500 years ago. This Bhakti Yogi was oblivious to all of the social perils of decent and or pious accumulations in his transcendental states of "Rasa" {Samadhi /Nirvana}
Ecstasy literally meaning "taken out of stasis". In other words revolution is itself the " maya" {illusion} which must be transcended from every angle of it's relativity.
Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
"Wonder is what Mystery would do if it was conscious" ...
"Wandering is for every other possibility"
Pippalayana Muni
Consider these thoughts Boadie:
— Feb 20, 2011
http://www.wimp.com/newbeginning/ (a little over one minute)
All of humanity's moaning and groaning are the result of our opinions about 'the process'.
My question to you and anyone else reading is: what should 'it' look like inside this process?
The analogy Mckenna makes in the recording is to birth, that poisonous, necessary part of birth. It is not pretty, but it is beautiful before and during the process, but most especially after the process is over with.
My suggestion to you is that all of what we observe and experience now, everyone, is obviously necessary on some level. Why? Because this is what is going on. It is one of the more oxymoronic things about life that people miss.
I truly appreciate your struggle to convey the truth of your experience. I believe that the only thing that would enhance your journey is that more fundamental acceptance and acknowledgement of everyone else's journey, because they are as necessary to the larger ongoing process as you are.
So, while there is no denying the 'objective truth' to the masses being manipulated and that this manipulation was done by, is being done by, manipulators, it seems clear we were born for, by and of these times. There is no clear reason why any one individual should hold sway, whether for 'good' reasons or 'evil' reasons, over how another person behaves or thinks. What is clear is that all people everywhere should find within their own hearts what is 'the right thing' for them to do, and allow everyone else to do the same.
Like Mckenna, I feel pretty good about our chances, and to illustrate why I feel that way I'll leave you with another video that reinforces that feeling I have:
http://www.wimp.com/definitiontalent/
Peace,
Steve
