Response to Stephen Hawking

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You have probably seen these articles by now...

Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace...renowned British scientist says aliens could be more interested in exploiting our natural resources than sharing their technology with us...blah, blah, blah.

First off, any ET race who beams here in light ships can take us as an afterthought. Given that they've been here for thousands of years already, that's clearly not part of the program. Secondly, human physicists have been more detrimental to life on earth than any "alien" race. Thirdly, guys like Hawking will become obsolete overnight when we have direct meaningful access to wisdom and proven solutions from our neighbors. Finally, just because Hawking and the rest of the stooges in the military-industrial-financial complex managed to find the only service-to-self ET's in the galaxy and become their pets, does not mean the rest of the humanity will make the same ugly mistake.

Trotting out Hawking (and other hacks) to crank up the fear strikes me as sad and desperate. Say a prayer for these people. Their party is over and they are terrified. Regardless, we're ready for truth over lies, love over fear, and service over selfishness.

Bring it!

Comments

Bob

Right on! Great post. Hawkins's comment is rediculous... Just another media sponsored hype to back an orchestrated threat to cause fear in people, so that the lovely oligarchy can pretend to protect humanity from the little green men?

The only dangerous beings in the universe are likely to be us considering our obsession with war against our own, making of nuclear weapons, weaponizing space and bombing the moon, (already overstepping several space treaties), and messing up with stargates and time lines...then of course how much destruction we have done to this planet and our fellow creatures, let alone how we love to treat one another with so much disdain....

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I saw his show that the

I saw his show that the comment originated from. It was over all a good show but this talk about aliens? Non-sense! I didn't know he was British!! That explains the anti alien agenda. I wonder if its a last ditch effort because I hear Hawking is very ill at the moment. They have to put out disinformation for when they really do disclose though. If they didn't how could they make the people go nuts? With shows like V?
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Interesting that you mention

Interesting that you mention the TV show 'V'. If you watch it very carefully, it's rather clear (to me at least) what sort of opinion is being molded. Add the Hawkings comment into the mix and it's reasonable to assume that there is a preemptive stance being put into place. It's as if disclosure is right around the corner or possibly a real or even faked visitation. If any of these things occur, we can expect the official stance to be that of fear and military intervention. In fact it's already set in motion (the fear part at least). But the reality of the situation is often the opposite of what is sold to us. Could it be that an ET race is coming? If so, will they have wonderful things to offer humanity including some type of spiritual guidance? If this kind of scenario were to play out, then the current power structure would be rendered irrelevant overnight. So it's easy to see why this kind of propaganda would be rolled out ahead of time.

Just one of the many crazy thought I like to entertain.

David Wilcock has some good

David Wilcock has some good blogs on this idea. He goes into great details explaining the war of the factions with TONS of data. He is also following up closely on the disclosure subject. Check him out sometime. He also scientifically disproved the "spirals of light" that appeared in the sky were failed rocket launches lol. He also talks about when the "aliens" will get here. I would imagine the intelligence is very advanced so I would agree with what he said. He said one race could just raise there hands and if a person had any desire to harm them, they would lose it. Another would make the person stop in there tracks for a period of time. That would have to do with brain wave manipulation of some sorts. I had a vision of world chaos but I was the only one calm. Then as I touched peoples foreheads they just calmed down.

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I have mixed opinions of

I have mixed opinions of Wilcock. But I hopped over to his blog and found it interesting that he articulated the same thoughts about 'V' so well. I particularly like what he had to say about what our role would be if this plays out. The 10% rule would be something to keep in mind for sure.

Thanks.

I feel like same way about

I feel like same way about Wilcock. He doesn't "prove" some of his stuff but iv done the research in other areas though so. Also I would like him to get the word out more about fractal science, he alludes to it a lot but doesn't explain it, but besides that. He took a lot of crap from his 2012 enigma movie but it really wasn't new, he just collected all the different sources so I don't know why there are so many haters. For all those haters out there who may be reading this: Love you!
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My understanding is that extraterrestrial life is polarized.

I believe extraterrestrials are polarized just like everything else we observe in the universe. I imagine a spectrum of advanced extraterrestrial life ranging from narcissistic entities that feed upon fear, control, and power to altruistic entities that permeate love, unity, and serene acceptance throughout the universe.

I don't think we should assume all aliens are here to save us. In fact, I think any reliance on divine salvation is a cop out.

The transformation occurs internally and then proliferates externally.

BE the WAVE.

I0880I

agreed

we can only save ourselves, i think its dangerous thinking humanity will be saved by anything other than ourselves anyway, i like your perspective on polarities, it is an interesting one, something im exploring at the moment, with the idea there are multidimensions, this being personal perception through outer-body experiences and near-death experiences, and encounters with different levels of physical and non-physical beings. Returning to the 'being saved comment', I personally feel we are the most destructive beings in the universe!

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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your sentiment.

I in no way, shape, or form disrespect your perspective; I hate how only one limited manifestation of truth pervades the globe through media outlets. Of course, like human beings, not all space-traveling creatures of the universe will be evil and not all will be benevolent.

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My understanding is that the

My understanding is that the ones with metal crafts are from the wrong side of the tracks. The pure beings of light are where its at. And nice fractal pic you have there, you trying to one up me huh?;)

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black psyops

i've heard there is a fraction of the CIA that have built cluncky type ufo craft that are part of the biological tissue gathering and exchange psyop for some cross breeding with humanoid /grey cross, another slant to that story is that greys are half human half alien programmed beings who are tricked into thinking they are just alien, this was written about by Pinchbeck in his 2012 book while referring to Whitley Striebers experiences...they could just be archons or interdimensional beings that somehow slip into our minds as the representative of our darker souless side with their lack of emotions....

i've seen some strange looking craft and well unless i meet the operators of the vehicles, im left guessing as to whether they were interdimensional spacecraft, outer space ufos or black psyops. = / ???????

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Archons & Interdimensional Beings?

Could you elaborate on these interdimensional beings?

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I0880I

I hear what everyone is

I hear what everyone is saying. There's likely to be good and bad everywhere. There are a TON of agendas weighing this issue down. We need to take responsibility for ourselves.

Still, I believe we have the opportunity to connect with some very benevolent beings who can provide us with some much needed truth to help us along the way.

I believe we can attract this positive energy to us and discern between good and bad. Elements in our government basically attracted bad energy and said, "yes, this works for us." Time to turn things around.

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Most definitely brotha.

I wholeheartedly Bob.
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shadow was following me

hear, hear and geometric beings

Absolutely, turning the tables is empowering ourselves, has anyone here experienced communications with multi-dimensional geometric entitiies? The only way i can explain them is they are constantly unfolding moving beings made up of the most elaborate geometric moving forms ive ever seen, the geometric patterns that make their form contain data and this data is transferred to me...i've been having their presences continually for the past 8 months.

This is my current experience and it seems to be on a regular basis and im usually sober and have not taken any entheogens over the past year. I have not heard much about anyone elses experience with such phenomena apart from Stuart Wilde a Taoist guy who met one of these beings in New Mexico, even his dog saw it.

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STME and dimension "doors"

Yes, the "Self-Transforming Machine Elves"...I've seen them too, and incidentally, my dog has as well.
I've also seen some fairly menacing insectoid creatures- kind of like praying mantices operating strange machines, as well as felt the presence of The Goddess through the use of Salvia Divinorum.
Could it be that "aliens" are not going to fly here in rocket ships, but that they've always been here, we've just never opened the door to their dimensions ?

we are but ants

I think that many people, when thinking about extra terrestrial life make the sad mistake of assuming that if we encountered alien life, they would be on a similar plane of consciousness to us.

when you walk by a colony of ants, you might stop for a second and notice that they are there, or you might even step on their colony and destroy the whole thing in one sweep of your shoe. Do you try and explain to them human knowledge? probably not...

THe human race is such an infant compared to the spans of time that have already gone by since the formation of stars and planets.
for us to think that aliens would be landing on our planet in ships is like the cavemen thinking that we would one day achieve aviation by learning to flap our arms hard enough... we really must think more creatively than that.

further more, any civilization advanced enough to perform interplanetary travel outside of our solar system will simply have no need for Earths resources. What they will want, if anything, is the energy from our sun. For that is where the real power is at.

and finally, if they do choose to meet us, it will be on their terms, and they will have had the technology to observe us from light-years away for a very long time. We project so many radio waves out into space anyway, that if they're out there, they've already seen us. It will not be us finding them...

so all in all, we should humble up a bit, and accept that there is no reason to fear aliens at all. if they wanted us dead, we would be. All we can really do is keep on learning new things, and try and be nice.

“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” -Albert Einstein

Caramelle Giraffe

There is certainly an abundance of energetic and mineral resources all over this infinite universe. There is also a lot more out there in way of life than we can imagine, a myriad of life forms, multidimensional, physical, and more mind boggling, we are in infancy, millenias have already past us by, it seems we have lost a lot of sophisticated knowledge that has disappeared with ancient civilizations and there is also an active supression of scientific knowledge to serve the oligarchy.

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Assume nothing

I hear lots of assumptions about unknown beings, whether they exist or not. I have my beliefs, based on experiences, but surely I can't make any assumptions. I think Hawking is simply saying, assume nothing.
Ditto on the urge to seek a messiah from outer space being misplaced hysteria. We were born on this planet, it's our responsibility to take care of it and the business done here. So chop wood, carry water and figure out what's real.

This is a good,healthy

This is a good,healthy discussion, I really appreciate the views people are expressing. Thanks for participating!

I think here are several different questions being addressed here.
1. Are there ET's?
2. If so, are they good or bad?
3. Would either sort of ET want anything from our planet?
4. Are they already here?
5. If so, for how long, who are they, and what do they want?
6. What is our opportunity and responsibility as an interplanetary species?
7. Why would Stephen Hawking make cautionary statements regarding ET's?

So here's my reaction to these questions based on a lot of web time, reading, and exactly ZERO personal experience with ET's or mad scientists:

1 Yes.

2. Both, but mostly good-to-angelic

3. From our 3D reality, somethings maybe. From spiritual and other dimensions, I can't say for sure - but that's probably where the action is.

4. Yes

5. A mix of souls - some good, some not so much - have been here for what we perceive as thousands of years (at least), because they want to engage the energy fields and soul groups of this planet for various purposes (none of which are truly clear to me).

6. As sovereign beings, we have the right and responsibility to determine our own multi-dimensional reality. Ideally, in harmony and unity with all beings and energy forms. The harmonious path requires discernment, compassion, and above all love. To date, we've been too caught up in ego and the 3D experience, for good or ill.

7. Personally, I don't believe Hawking was saying "assume nothing." I think he was saying "be afraid." And given the circles he travels in, he's probably well aware of some of the folks to be afraid of.

Given my answers above, I don't believe the statement is random and intended to address "contact." I believe, the timing is specific and intended to muddle the issue of disclosure. The status quo is fighting hard to maintain itself in a period of unprecedented evolution.

Ultimately, I'm disappointed in Hawking for participating in this fool's errand when there's so much more he could be doing with his position in our society.

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mind boggling indeed!

We picture extra terrestrials much of the time as organisms made of flesh, whatever the fundamental element (carbon, silicon, ect) that have relatively big enough "bodies" to be seen by us and are at the same time small enough to walk (or fly, maniftest, ect) the Earth

there is an equally likely chance however, that when we look with our telescopes into the night sky, that we are actually seeing them and don't even realize it.
while it is well known that stars are as alive as any other organisms, we don't attribute them to have any kinds of consciousness-
but does a tree have a consciousness? Just because we cannot communicate with it, does not meet that it does not.

also, there is an idea that interstellar dust clouds hundreds of light years across could actually act as MASSIVE brains, with our equivalent of synaptic gaps that span larger that the diameter of out entire planet, transferring energy and functioning with a level of intelligence completely unfathomable to us. Science has not rules this possibility out (according to what i've heard), and so the chance exists that to whatever intelligent life is out there, we could be so unbelievably small (or maybe massive), that any kind of physical contact would be impossible

what an amazing universe we live in!

anyone remember the book, horton hears a hoo?

“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” -Albert Einstein

"Horton Hears a Hoo ?" - one

"Horton Hears a Hoo ?" - one of my all-time favorites.
When I was a kid I used to trip out on how no one anywhere had the exact same thumbprint as mine...and maybe there was a whole world in that piece of dirt underneath my fingernail.
As above, so below. All is a part of the whole, and the whole is made of every part...

"I think any reliance on

"I think any reliance on divine salvation is a cop out."

Seems that this idea has gained quite a lot of popularity lately. So...the idea that only "we can save ourselves". Can someone, FOR ONCE, expand on what they mean by this? The way I see it, many of us are *trying* to do just this, and look where it gets us. We get fucked by big corporations...the police and the military are more out of control than they've ever been (or rather, they are under COMPLETE control by the dark elite) and the world is in dire straights, the likes of which we've never seen before. The more good we try to accomplish, the more awareness we try to spread, the more enlightenment we try to share with the masses, the worse things get. We have a global tyranny on our hands, one that is Satanic (literally), our human rights are being stripped right out from under us while the brainwashed masses refuse to notice, and yet we have all these holier than thou preachers telling us that only we can save ourselves. Well guess what brothers and sisters...it ain't working. The Earth herself needs to be saved. The children of the world need to be saved. The animals need to be saved. The oceans and the forests need to be saved. But only WE can do it? Well, we've been trying and trying and trying and trying since the 1960s, and it's gotten us NOWHERE due to the fact that the elite negate every attempt we ever made to improve the conditions of our world. So I take exception to the idea that hoping for divine intervention is a "cop-out". It most certainly is not. Without divine intervention, we are fucked fucked fucked. The "new world order" and its armed minions are planning in secret the next steps to implement their tyranny while the vast majority of humans on this planet are busy watching entertainment programs on television. Only we can save ourselves? Well guess what...it ain't gonna happen. Without divine intervention, we are royally FUCKED. Get it yet? I'm very sorry to sound so pessemistic but the reality is that throughout the past several centures, secret societies have amassed so much power without humanity taking notice that they are now dangerously close to realizing their ultimate goal which is nothing short of complete global domination. They have all the weapons. They have all the technology. They own and control all major modes of communication. Unless there is a massive universal and immediate awakening of humanity, there is nothing we can do to stop this syndicate from achieving their goal. And such an awakening is not going to happen. Human beings are too brainwashed to even consider the idea that reality is any different than what they've been conditioned to believe by television. The only remaining hope we have is a cosmic interdimensional shift (or ascension).

It may take along time but I

It may take along time but I could explain it to you how we will save ourselves. There is a lot to us humans, more then meets the eye. Our DNA is a prized commodity in the universe. It has the ability to bend magnetism and what do you call light that has been bent to eat its own tail? Matter. I would have killed myself long ago! lol It seems utterly hopeless! go here: goldenmean.info for small bursts of telepathy and telekinesis and then tell me we aren't the "GODS" we have been waiting for. The dark elite are the beings that hide in the shadows...the shadows of your awareness and consciousness. We are the ones who will save US.

PS One shaman makes all government technology OBSOLETE. Can I get an amen?

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Couldn't have said it better myself, FractalBob.

Existentially, subjectively one can realize the truly infinite potential of him or herself.

BE the WAVE.

I0880I

Yes, bad stuff is still

Yes, bad stuff is still happening and may continue for a while.

But, you know what else is happening?

Reversing NWO timelines, investigating central banks, ending fiat currency, ending fractional reserve banking, exposing corporate crime and corruption, exposing corrupt politicians, exposing secret societies, exposing degenerate "elites," exposing climate manipulation, exposing religious abuses, exposing world health lies, ending the 9-11 truth embargo, ending the ET truth embargo, ending the free energy truth embargo, releasing and purging negative influences ...AND manifesting the on-going awakening of the beautiful and amazing people of planet Earth.

These things are happening too. As the earth changes her consciousness, the outer world will reflect the inner world. Anything that is out of harmony with the frequency of the evolution will literally come tumbling down.

I've been hearing a lot about the two spirals of evolution available at this time. Upward and downward. If you align your heart with the upward path and move into harmony with the Earth and the Unity Field, you are doing us all a great service. The more your feelings, thoughts, and actions align, the better.

The best thing to do with the NWO is just pour the good vibe on 'em! Give them love. It helps you and might even help them. If they choose the downward spiral, so be it. I don't believe they will be taking everyone with them as they go.

We have been conditioned to believe that the technosphere is superior to nature. E.g., Money, gizmos, high-tech weapons, industry, and manipulation of physical resources are the only things that matter. But this is a lie. All of these things are synthetic. As such, all of these things struggle to remain separate from the organic harmony or nature. In the end, the biosphere trumps the technosphere like it or not.

We have been born into the apex of our puzzling detour from harmony. Isn't it wonderful that we will be here when we integrate once more?

Hang in there, ConsciousObserver! Don't let the bastards get you down.

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Answering Bobs Questions

1. Are there ET's?
As far as seeing evidence and personal experience, im satisfied yes that there is a myriad of life inhabiting the universe and this planet that is of non-terrestrial origin, it is also possible life on earth orginally came from outer space considering how much life is floating around in space.

2. If so, are they good or bad?
Who knows, my theory based on personal experience, is that there may be a representation of many different higher and lower vibrationals of beings, some completely indifferent to us, others with invested interest in our biology and others with interest in our expanding consciousness, some like to give us knowledge that will help raise the consciousness of our species and therefore help humanity and Gaia, there are many different species, some more physical and some more multi-dimensional and inter-dimensional, some intelligent consciousness looking like 3 dimensional floating geomentric forms, more like entities, others more etheric.

3. Would either sort of ET want anything from our planet?
There are so many natural resources and infinite possible locations of where they can be extracted i doubt that they would bother anymore coming here for resources from Gaia unless it is our DNA and emotions then i think there might be some interest from some beings, we cannot negate there are other planets that have life and ecosystems like earth. Some whistleblowers have even talked of visiting other planets similar to ours.

4. Are they already here?
Yes I think they have been here from the beginning of ancient civilizations and probably before then, one only needs to look at the cave paintings in the south of France to see that alien beings and craft have been painted by early man.

5. If so, for how long, who are they, and what do they want?
I anwered that with my answer to question 4.

6. What is our opportunity and responsibility as an interplanetary species?
to expand our consciousness as a humanity, ability to live in harmony with earth by using zp energy and sustainable resources, by learning languages and ways of communicating that go beyond our anthropogenic scope of traditional communication

7. Why would Stephen Hawking make cautionary statements regarding ET's?
Well you already know my view on that one up above in earlier comments, oligarchic sponsored fear media hypes!

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The Test Of Truth

One does not have to be from outer-space to be an alien. Virtually any one who is a stranger - meaning unfamiliar - is an alien, until and unless they become familiar. Further - there is the core issue of basic trust. The test of trust is I say what I mean and I mean what I say thus there is a consistency between intention and action.

Additionally trust presumes trustworthiness. The test of trustworthy for me is the allowance and indeed encouragement of all parties to dissent and to disagree. Until that is known fact by the passing of 'tests' of trust, it is in ones' self interest to adopt a common sense approach of benign skepticism. No?

European Space Agency images- Civilizations on Mars

Proof of ancient civilizations on Mars, follow the instructions on the video and you can find many images that show building structures on Mars, you can download them from the European Space Agency Website and study them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcR7VX-FwDY&feature=related

Not only does this one include the structures he points out but there is a building structure outside and above the crater on the far left side

http://www.esa.int/esa-mmg/mmg.pl?b=b&type=I&mission=Mars%20Express&star...

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/137-021104-0533-6-3d2-01...

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You know about this?

You know about this? http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html

Empirical data that the moon of mars phobos, is artificial! It is 1/3 hollow and is leaking some type of atmosphere. 2010 is the year we make contact.

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Seems like Phobos has a big

Seems like Phobos has a big part to play in disclosure.

Depending on who you believe, we already have bases on Mars and have for years. The fascists in the West (especially NASA) won't tell the truth about Mars, so the rest of the world is going to force the issue through the ESA and Phobos.

Should be interesting.

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