A CHANGE in postings on EVOLVER

Heya E.Sam,
You state:
"A certain amount of suspicion is a good thing, but some people -- e.g. the Pinkelephantcollective, SoulTraveler (or SoulTraveller), and WeAreChange -- are basically mouthpieces for Alex Jones. I don't think they are in the employ of Jones, but they pick up his right-wing conspiracy theories and communicate them as effectively as any spy. "

This is weird and your own "Dis-Info" for pointing me out as being a "mouthpiece" or a "dis-info spy" is ludricous. I dance more with in the "light" than most people I know. There you go being manipulated with right wing/left wing stereo typing, i am NO WING....I shattered that illusion many years ago as it is a tool used by the establishment to divide and conquer. The postings I place here are not to "fear monger" but to alert as many people as possible about what's going on behind the veil of media manipulation.

I wish I didn't have to point these issues out, but the reality on this earth realm is that evil corporate greed exists on levels that most people are not aware of. Our governments have lost all credibility as they no longer serve the will of the people but have become enforcers of their banking cartel military industrial complex masters. By pointing out various news subjects not as "dis-info fearmongering" but as wake up calls to expose a dark and hidden agenda being perpetrated upon humanity by insane minds, the idea is that these worthy issues spread farther and wider within the collective conscious to provoke discussion and thought.

We evolvers of "light" MUST confront the darkness that is upon us at whatever level we are each capable of. If there is any area Sam that you can dis-prove Alex Jones and the posts I have placed here then I'd love to hear about it either on this forum or via personal email. The reason I point out many of his news items is simple. he is what a "true jounalist" should be about , a person with the courage, tenacity and balls to continuosly expose the police state tyranny against an unsuspecting public. A journalist bases his expose on "hard fact and consistently reliable sources". Alex, in my opinion is a "Light Worker", because he is shining an intense bright light upon these insane people and their eugenecist agenda trying to help as many people as possible to break free from the media-social conditioning slumber that has maintained a strangle hold on the awakening of the human spirit.

You can believe whatever the government may want to tell you about the assasinations of JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Ghandi, Lennon. You can continue to believe the distorted History that the government may want to teach you about Pearl Harbor, Operation Northwoods, the Vietnam and Korean wars. You can continue to believe that there was no "agent orange" in vietnam or "Gulf War Syndrome" in the mid-east. You can continue to believe the "official government conspiracy fairy tale " on the oklahoma city bombing and 9-11. You can continue to follow "Faux News" and their spin on the BP oil spill and so forth.

You can continue to sit in comfort regarding Obama's " Barry Soetero" vision of "Transparent government" and his nobel peace prize winning take on more endless wars...that is fine and you're entitled to your opinion, as for myself I choose to keep my mind, instincts and eyes wide open as I NEVER will be a $lave!

Just so you know, I recieve lots of private emails thanking me for my posts and how it's helped spark deeper thought and new insights into the issues that are raised. Therefore, I want to assure the Evolver community that i am far from being a "dis-info spy"...that is the most absurd and funniest thing i've yet heard. I'm an extremely conscious and awakened being of light placed here to assist humanity in whatever way I can to confront the darkness that resides on this earth realm, it really is as simple as that, and i've been like this since I was a kid always questioning authority and looking beyond their "official stories", dismissing dogma as often as necessary.

You can choose to dismiss this and disregard the expose of truth in favor of hiding your head in the sand and hope that the darkness that resides everywhere in the cosmos will have no impact on yourself, I wish I could do that, unfortunately I can't.

It's important that each individual filters out whatever information I post here and come to their own conclusions through your personal logical filters. All I ask is that you retract what you stated above because it simply is NOT TRUE and you are pointing the finger of your post specifically at me when there are others here that try to expose these issues to the community. Trust me I do NOT live in "fear" as I understand that this is all an illusion but the least I can do is expose the "TRUTH" to as many sentient beings as possible!

Namaste!

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Sometimes I have to wonder if you're mistaking Evolver for Devolover. No, that's not a 'D' in the logo. It's simply part of the design.

Anyway, you never cease to push my buttons Sam. Someday soon, I hope to have no buttons to push. But until the day comes where I'm in complete control of my own ego, expect some much deserved criticism from the likes of me. I'm not sure what the rest of the Evolver community thinks of you. But I'll tell you what I think. This seems to be the most appropriate blog in which to bring this up considering that it deals with negativity and disinformation. Let me indulge...

I think you're here to represent a brand of intellectualism that's dying a slow, but much needed death. I'm not sure if you heard the news yet, but since you're keen on Carlin, let me post something for you to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI

--"I don't know that I would call people spinning wacky conspiracy theories ``disinformation spies'', but the end result is the same -- they mislead people, and sow fear and suspicion."

For someone to be mislead, they must first concede to being led to begin with. Myself and others that I know who find plenty of evidence and validity in the conspiracies we see taking place do not allow anyone to lead us. That's the whole point. When you fully decide to become your own leader, it becomes much easier to see things for what they are (or more likely to be), versus what is being sold to you via the mainstream media and / or the corporatized institutions. Get it? There's plenty of information out there to support some of these theories. That's a fact. Weather or not you chose to accept said evidence or deny it to protect your particular worldview, is another matter.

--"The root of these conspiracies is ``9/11 was an inside job''. From THAT conspiracy, one is led to conclude that ``government is not just inefficient (as the moderate Libertarian position holds), but is in fact EVIL (as the far-right Libertarian position holds)''. From that basic assumption, you get people believing in ANYTHING AT ALL -- "

What is it with you and labels? Everything you said there is so simplistic and absurd, that I have to wonder if you actually think that, or if someone is paying you to look like an ass in hopes that you'll sway opinion here (remevber what Cass Sustein said?).

First of all, the 9/11 conspiracy isn't the root of anything. It's more of a critical mass, breaking point where we were given the opportunity to finally wake up to the mass corruption we let ourselves become victim to. To not seriously question that event is the absolute epitome of cognitive dissonance. Furthermore, there are conspiracies being discussed here that far precede 9/11. So the root it is not. Secondly, to accept 9/11 as possibly being an inside job does not imply that the government is evil. Maybe if you believe in the devil it does. But Christianized conspiracy theories often lead to bad conclusions. Like Satan is taking over the world. Lastly, how exactly does coming to the realization that 9/11 might have been an inside job, lead to belief in "ANYTHING AT ALL"? if Uncle Bob killed his own nephew, but pinned the crime on the neighbor, how would later finding out that it was Uncle Bob all along lead to a belief that aliens run the uncles? A ridiculous analogy for a ridiculous comment.

--"I have tried using pleasant and soft methods to deal with such people... to pull them back into the light... but it has no effect."

"Back into the light"?!?!? Oh please Sam... bathe me in the light of your ever present, peer-reviewed knowledge of all things in the universe! Nevermind,... by your own admission, your methods are ineffective.

--"So now I try ``shock and awe'' tactics -- beat down their confidence in whatever position they hold; force them to look at the consequences of their positions in the most extreme light I can cast their way; smash their false heroes with unsparing sardonicism."

This is my favorite. Although you may be being slightly facetious, it's very typical of the type of fascist, authoritarian viewpoint you like to express here in virtually every post.

What you seem to promote here at Evolver Sam, is what is called a Scientific Dictatorship. To you, conspiracy theories are disinformation (presumably because they are not peer reviewed?) and 'official' mainstream reporting of things is real information (provided that the person delivering the info has proper credentials?). This way of thinking is what we're all trying to get past. Well, most of us I'd hope. But that's ok. Your views are always appreciated in the mix. It reminds some of us here how far we've come, and the kind of thinking we're up against in the world.

I'll stop here lest I cross that threshold into the Dark Side. I'll now let you get back to your incessant labeling, name calling, and general arrogance.

I'll leave you with one more, but lesser known Carlin clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow5_UYKaJ8&feature=related

Not tryin' to be too confrontational here, but, 'American' thought? There's more to this place than America, it's not so bad about saying that, but I think most people get a little annoyed when global things get regarded as just American things.

Something not so okay though is the 'especially the men' comment. That's coming across a little sexist. And it's probably a bad idea to treat all the people coming here as people needing to be taught or shown some sort of path by us. That just ain't our place. Path's gonna change with every new member, that's something we've gotta be able to roll with. There's nothing solid, no ultimate goal here, we're simply not smart enough to know where exactly we're going. Acting like we are, is gonna serve to turn people away.