tired of the latest anti environmental anti climate change crap!

Exactly.

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Yes I think it is important to think rationally, if you're interested in what part Alex Jones has to play in all this you might rationally check out his sources, such as the documents he's pointing at that connect the elite with environmentalism and Eugenics. Like the 'Ecoscience' textbook written by Obama's science advisor Holdren. Like it or not Alex Jones at least points at some sources to back up his claims.

How is our planet overpopulated? We have the technological capacity to feed everyone and live within our means, if we merely changed a few details. So why focus on populations needing to die off? Our tendency is to have less children in developed nations. We only have one problem... that there is a parasitic elite enforcing inequality of wealth and conducting a war (military/economic) on the third world, and our monetary system forces us to consume and work for nothing.

Personally I think you are right that he is very dismissive of paganism or Gaia worship in particular. Because he's Christian. He makes fun of hippies and earth worshippers at times for entertainment value. And he makes fun of mainstream Christians and Rednecks as well. Brutally, probably more so. You can choose to take it personally or you can choose to focus on the bigger issue and help your own cause that way. Trust me, as long as you are against Global Government, Environmental Police and Carbon Taxes, I think

Edit: I found this video of Alex Himself discussing the movie on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NgoB3iPCM8

Again, his argument (not necessarily mine) is that TPTB are pushing this religion (or co-opting it the same way Christianity is co-opted) as a slick ad campaign for the purpose of getting people to relinquish control over their lives, leaving them as the only ones standing. This sort of strategy has already worked in the third world. Furthermore, this kind of hooks up with what scientists like Lovelock and some other prominent environmentalists are saying. They're saying that just like in the movie Avatar, Gaia will remove the disease of civilization. In fact, it's inevitable that civilization will crumble so we're better off just going back into the woods and learning how to forage.

Sorry, but it's not going to work if TPTB establish a full-fledged world dictatorship, with a scientific surveillance control grid. Especially if they have some secret free-energy technologies. Personally, I would agree that it's somewhat irresponsible to count on mother nature saving us. It's like Christians counting on being raptured. We need to cooperate with people who don't believe in Gaia or think Gaia is real. The true story of native peoples and people who lived in relative harmony with the environment is that they were butchered and enslaved by imperialists, as well as other native peoples. That doesn't mean they were wrong to live that way... they were just too weak to defend it so it ended. We need to stop being that weak so we can really live that way. It's only a matter of being connected like those trees in Avatar, which was the one part of that biological universe that more resembled our technology than the nature that we are accustomed to.

Cheers,

Meade

There's no such thing as overpopulation, only inefficient use of resources. Food rots by the megaton every day, much of it in dumpsters locked to keep dumpster divers from getting at it. One segment of the global population is so fat their brains have stopped working, while another, larger section is slowly (and not so slowly) starving to death.

Anyone who says 'we are massively overpopulated' is also saying, de facto, that we should be massively depopulated. There is no way to accomplish this in less than century without murder on a scale more massive than anything recorded within history.

Now, are you directly advocating gigadeath? No, not consciously, at least. But you are participating in a societal metacontext in which just such an atrocity is likely to manifest because eventually (ie now) people who think that way will be numerous enough, motivated enough and in a position to carry this out. This is, in fact, precisely what is happening.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're white. I'm also going to guess that overpopulation isn't so much of a problem in whatever country it is that you live. More a problem down south, where all those brown and black people are packed into those festering third world slums that blight so much of the modern landscape. Right?

Oh crap, I just called you racist, too, didn't I?

NO I DIDN'T.

I don't for a moment think that you're a bigot. A bigot wouldn't be here in the first place.

However, the overpopulation meme originated with and has been primarily promulgated by the bigoted, arrogant and racist Old Money crypto-aristocratic regime that has been ruling the West from the shadows for centuries, now. By accepting this idea (and in the end, really, anything that vomits forth from their devious, greedy 'little' minds) you are acceding to their rule, to their will, and to their plan.

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You mean the thousands of experts who vehemently disagree with AGW? Not that you'd notice this in the media.

Perhaps you mean the experts who have, by conducting actual experiments, demonstrated strong evidence for an interaction between the solar magnetic field, the incidence of high energy cosmic rays on the Earth and low-altitude cloud cover (this being one of the primary temperature regulators). You'll notice that CO2 doesn't appear once in this particular causality chain.

Wait, no ... I think I've got it. You mean the experts who have been shown, irrefutably shown, to have a) hidden and/or destroyed data (repeatedly), b) rigged their software to spit out the graphs their paymasters want to see, c) used the peer review process to keep dissenting views out of the scientific literature, d) deliberately, as a matter of policy, played up the most frightening scenarios their slapdash theory could come up with and e) lied about doing all of this.

Yeah, those experts. Let's listen to them.

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