About black holes, the universe, and philosophy.

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Last night I was thinking about the layers of a black hole. There is the Event Horizon (Point of No Return) and the center of the black hole, the Singularity. After one passes through the event horizon they are sucked into this darkness, until at last they reach the singularity. We don't know what happens at this point, the singularity is infinite and immeasurable. The more we discover the universe it seems the more we discover ourselves. I like to believe that this Singularity, this point of stillness in an infinite amount of darkness and chaos; I like to believe this is being. This is the one thing that cannot be measured, tested, unless you jump in. Seems as though you need to wade through insanity and chaos to reach the point of stillness, which is worth every second (even though in this it seems even time itself is relative).

Souls are an interesting thing, they too cannot be measured, conceived, and are completely infinite. I believe they are the light in your eyes, if you would like to experience this life you need to go inside yourself, you have to face yourself in all of your flaws, you have to completely shed your own mask. Many cases you must go temporarily insane to get to this point of singularity inside yourself. It's this insanity that is swirling around your point of singularity, it's this that you must wade through to become being.

Without the point of singularity the black hole is nothing, meaningless... Without the soul (our point of singularity), we would be nothing. When the light in our eyes leave us we are nothing.

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Same Conclusion

I independently came to the same conclusion recently. I was just discussing this with my brother, who is getting his PhD in philosophy at UT Austin. I think consciousness is a singularity, consuming experience (time, etc)like a black whole consumes with gravity. Like the way space is bend by gravity consciousness bends experience thru time into itself--like an intrinsic part of the universe, something undying, the very fabric of existence. Maybe.

I have taken Datura, ayahuasca, DMT, morning glories, mushrooms, LSD, Salvia D, over the course of my life. Later reflection has led me to this theory.

Cool.

Thanks!

Thanks for the comment!

There are a lot of different topics I feel like I need to talk about, but it's just sitting and writing them out seem silly, because nothing is really concrete. I did like this theory however because it seems rather universal, with measurable knowledge:) I was also told that philosophers are usually fascinating mathematicians. I didn't understand that until rather recently, and now that I have for the most part let my mind go through the previous use of psychedelics, it seems as though I gain more knowledge everyday.

Thanks again, and much love!
Chelsea

perhaps energy and consciousness are one

i have become extremely fascinated recently about the seeming "consciousness" of photons, in that they can be perceived as either waves or particles depending upon how they are absorbed, as well as the random behavior of electrons as they essentially teleport to different dimensions of time and space without any prompting.
This has lead me to ponder whether or not all energy (which creates mass) is consciousness, and if the human brain is simply just a concentrated producer of this consciousness which is actually embodied in the collective communication of all of the subatomic particles that compose it.

If this is true, then it would make sense the the collective consciousness of all beings on this planet would contribute to the genius of the planet Earth, and that the Communion of communication might be our true purpose as a species.

we see that mass naturally comes together by the force of gravity, while maintaining somewhat of a balance because of the dark matter and energy that pushes things apart...
well maybe we are here to bring things together on an intangible level, using communication (love, in particular), and that in this way, we create our own kind of intangible gravity like a black hole of love-

i donno, just a thought....

“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” -Albert Einstein

Crazy girl...

...I love the way you think. That 'what if' and 'just maybe' explorer attitude is the spirit that tears down walls and will hopefully allow unity in a tangible way.

I get the feeling DMT is the lubricant that allows consciousness to travel the mycelium like wormholes of the universal mind. Perhaps black holes represent feeders to fruiting bodies(us) that are drawing off energies to another level of the ever-spiraling IS.

Live well, be free
zimij

very good. I have a personal

very good. I have a personal developing theory that concentrates on the time and the quantuum space of consciousness we are living in today (I agree with the comments above, there is consciousness in all matter, including space, in fact the 'matter' can hardly be said to even exist at all, whether it be in the perceived form of either a particle or what can be called a wave or a 'frenquency', matter, and space, IS consciousness itself) and how this current paradigm of a misconstrued, misconcepted word-view that has led to an impure collective consciousness, this has also been disturbed by the fabricated idea of time and religion. When looked into 'time' as Terrence Mckenna, who was a pioneer of vast exploration of DMT and other entheogens, and his Timewave Zero and theory of Novelty in time, you can see that time as we view it is a reocurring, resonating 'wave' or 'frequency' stretching throughout the course of recorded history of mankind, as revealed by his Timewave program, and interestingly enough his wave program abruptly ended in a crashing fall in winter solstice of the year 2012, before Terrence was even aware of the ancien Hopi calendar ending on the same date (and would soon learn of the others)

sorry for the break in

sorry for the break in comments, i have to re write the second half from memory because i wasn't logged in for some reason.

Terrence Timewave program is a graph of a 'wave' which has randomly scattered sharp peaks and falls among a lesser dramatic motion of wave (which i now compare to that of a Random Event Generator, which makes a great deal of sense) the peaks being in times of enlightenment like the Great Awakening, and the falls being in more dark economical times, like the Depression, this wave of 'novelty' in time suddenly ends in a dramatic crash of the wave in the year 2012, when novelty and 'time' as we know it, will end. Terrence also describes the wave of time as progressively speeding up since the dawn of consciously experienced existence, increasing in intensity over 'time' with huge leaps in technological and biomolecular advancements, as well as evolution in conscious experience, as this wave will keep speeding up until "more evolution will happen in two hours than has in the last two hundred years", and it compacts into itself as one singular point, one single momentuous event of experience in this matrix of Reality, this also agrees with other theories of an approaching 'singularity' between man, nature, consciousness, and this universe and this reality, the uprising of a 'collective consciousness' where 'all things will be One', we will all 'be at Once' with ourselves and with our universe. Think about it.
If Terrence is on the right track in that time is speeding up, compressing into one point, if the Hopi and the Mayan have chosen to end their calendars at this one point in time for the same reason, if we are headed for the Singularity, where does that put us? It puts us right in the middle of the Edge of it, at the Event Horizon, and we are spiraling downward, inward and outward at the same time, into the middle of the Singularity, growing in speed and intensity as we approach it closer and closer still. Is it such a crazy thought that we, our space and our time, our reality, our planet and perhaps even our universe, is traveling down the eye of some super-supermassive black hole? It just makes sense to me, even if the 'black hole' is only metaphorically speaking. In any case, we are headed for something huge, and there is no denying that we all feel it. In the end, if we do become One, perhaps we can have a chat.
Namaste friend
-A

Portals to the Interdimensional realities

my instinct tells me that blackholes are entrances to separate realities that our human minds cannot comprehend while encased in our mortal bodies...hmmmm...

:)

I have felt the same way with other celestial beings on our planet. Let's play here for a second... Imagine that there are millions of other realms and dimensions, right? Okay, but it wouldn't make logical sense for each of those realms to be separated because of contact purposes.

Have you ever imagined that there very well could be other beings sharing this planet with us that our little minds just couldn't comprehend? Possibly that they are on a higher dimensional frequency than us?

~

Possible (as is everything) but would they be able to 'see' us? Or are we all invisible to each other? Our brain protects us from knowledge considered "useless" so it limits our brain usage, automatically. Could very well be the only reason.

I saw a guy...

...once, while in a 'trance' state, that seemed to be in a parallel dimension that I was 'bleeding' into. He was small and graceful yet sturdy and wise. he reminded me of an amazonian adolescent psychically beyond his years. When I heard of Avatar I made the connection, "Ah...that's what that was". I don't spend as much time exploring as I do trying to integrate what I've 'brought back'.
I get a sense there are parallel realms that are on a similar scale to our physical world. And I think there are probably realms on increasing scales like fractals and or spiraling sequences that we don't recognize from this limited perspective. For instance, a galaxy might be a dust particle from 2 differing scalar realities.
I like to think our consciousness can move between these levels and eventually bring these expanding ripples of reality into focus and maybe solve a mystery or 2 that will turn some tables on this planet.

Live well, be free
zimij

Panpsychism

Panpsychism is a very ancient philosophy that implies that ALL things are based from consciousness. This is my area of interest that has "evolved" from my mental experiences in the field of Thermodynamics and my physical experiences as a Marathon swimmer. A troika evolves that requires a consideration of emotional experiences from the murky business of consciousness.
To integrate these is my goal, where all starts from "nothing"...... and proceeds to where it is at NOW. This is my 2nd post in an attempt to find where I belong in this web site as a new member.

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