2CB chosen over traditional entheogens by South African healers.

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This is rather old news, but seeing how few people know of it and even fewer people have an understanding of how this applies to current debates on the benifits of semi-synthetic compounds I felt it would be appropriate to write on the subject.

I will not give a history of 2CB or spend a lot of time explaining what it is, I suggest reading Thanatos to Eros and PIHKAL for more information there. What I will point out however is that as the linked article points out for the first time in hisotry traditional shamanic healers choose a semi-synthetic ( meaning a compound made in a laboratory but based on a natural occuring chemical, in this case mescaline) over their traditional plants.

I have had the honor of knowing individuals in South Africa, who will not be named to protect their privacy who have intimate knowledge on this occurance and so I will fill in the blanks on the subject, based on what I have learned from them.

2CB was maketed as a visionary trance producing medicine to traditional South African healers who traditionaly worked with visionary plant medicines, the chemical was sold to them in traditional herbalist shops as Ubulawu Nomathotholo, which is a traditional name for these visionary medicines. From what I understand the traditional visionary medicines where expensive, rare, and potential fatal if taken in the wrong way or in the wrong amounts. The intention that traditional Sangoma's had in working with these plants was to consult their ancestors for divination and curing of peoples problems and ailments. Due to the advantages of working with a cheaper, safer and more easily available visionary medicine the plants where left behind by some Sangomas and 2CB became the preffered medicine to work with.

This was a historical moment.... traditional healers choose 2CB over their traditional plants! One was quoted by my informant as to saying, " it brings us to the place of our ancestors, just as the plants do."

I beleive that this is important knowledge today to pay special attention to. Many people have a very strong bias against any lab made chemical, any semi-synthetic. People also have a strong bias against chemicals extracted from plants such is the case of DMT extracted from plants for smoking, adding to changa blends or taken in a capsule or in water along with a harmala alkaliod to produce the "ayahausca effect" as Ott called it. Often those that debate the practice of even working with extracted alkaliods confuse these natural occuring alkaliods as being synthetic, or synthesized, when in actuality they are simply naturally occuring alkaliod extracts.

What is fascinating however about this historical choice of a semi-synthetic coumpond ( a product of nature AND mans tinkering, Sasha Shulgin to be exact!) over a natural occuring plant, is that it shows us something that these personal and perhaps uninformed bias's against such compounds may be over looking. "They take us to the place of our ancestors," these chemicals can infact offer us a way of doing healing work that is equal; at least in the eyes of traditional shamans, to that of natural alkliods extracted via hot water from plants. What appears to be the basis of these notions that the chemicals are in some way sacriligous to the work of shamans if shamans themselves choose them over their traditional plants?

I recall years ago reading some work by Claudio Naranjo who gave LSD to traditional amazonian healers... they of coarse loved it and asked him to bring more next time he came to visit. This has always seriously resonated with my personal experiences in both my relationship with traditional plant teacher curanderismo and circle work with peers. My peers and I could never understand the bias as have any real basis in reality, the arguements seemed to be moot point.

What seems to me to be lacking in many of these debates and arguements over which is better a chemical or a tea (filled with chemicals BTW) is an emphasis on intention and how we relate to the experience. Set and setting has always been pointed out in the entheogen community as importance. The inner set is often times our expectations as to how an experience will go or why. if we beleive in other words that a chemical is profane or inferior in comparision to a plant, plant extract, or the chemical extraction from a plant, we create a 'set', a self fullfilling prophecy.

We live in a world in crisis and we need as many allies as we can get in the cultivation of awareness. The personal growth and healing we need, we need badly, and the earth needs us badly to have this healing for its sake as well. Why create limitations when we need more options to be succesful?

Another point of contention is that these plants are made with polluting chemicals (which is always an interesting arguement seeing how so many pollute the earth via importation and travel to distant lands for work with entheogens), but what we are seeing today is the advent of green chemistry. Solvents made from distilled oranges are actively being used by ecologically and socially aware chemists these days... and the more people explore the alternatives the more we discover we can do ethically and in ways that truly benifit the whole.

It is interesting to point out that the Sangoma's choose the 2CB over the traditional plants because they where growing scarce and where increasing in cost. This ment that the need had increased and they had over harvested these traditional plants, ie. the need for them created an destructive ecological and social impact. It may very well be that semi-synthetic chemicals such as 2CB may be an answer to providing people with the ability to find the answers and healing they need while reducing the social and ecological impact. We don't know if this is a possability because the bias people are developing creates a block to discovering these answers.

My question is... if traditional Sangoma's choose 2CB over their plants... what do they know that we do not?

Please see TACETHNO for more info:
http://www.tacethno.com/info/2cb/2cbhistory.html

For those that have not read Thanatos to Eros... I highly suggest it.
http://www.maps.org/t2e/
Wonderfully you can read it for free online courtesy of MAPS....

Comments

interesting

interesting

it is interesting isn't

it is interesting isn't it... What is even more interesting is that few people have really paid much attention to this subject... I think I am one of the only few writing about it. I tried to send shamans drum magazine an interview with the ethnobotanist in south africa I spoke with on this subject... but they didn't even respond. The bias against chemicals is a very big one these days.

 http://changaya.blogspot.com

Pretty cool,

it shows how these substances are merely chemical keys to unlock certain things in our own minds and bodies. Nice post

Peace!

Ya that's quite a historic event.

Maybe we oughta trade them the chemicals for a bit more on the theory and practice of shamanic ritual and setting. I bet those people could teach us a lot, especially us in the West who have little or no exposure to shamanism besides books.

I wonder what kind of medicines the 2cb was replacing? In terms of powerful entheogens in Africa, I've really only heard of Iboga.

thanks folks... Jedi, I

thanks folks...

Jedi, I think that we have been a humanistic frame of refference for so long the one thing we need to learn from shamans right now is to just be animist people and learn dirrectly from who they learn from, nature, spirits, ancestors, the land. if you look across many animist cultures thats what you see over and over again. Some themselves try to own that process, but more often then not what you see is that they established ways to just listen, commune with and respect nature, the land and the ancestors and they found ways to do that that we see as shamanic techniques. But that is kind of a distraction to look at it that way.

Shamans around the world are really really oppertunistic from my expereinces with them lol... and they will work with what ever methods are available and work to alter conciousness and achive their goals. Whether it is ritual peicing, fasting, rubbbing stones together or snuffing lime ash with seeds from a tree or taking 2CB! I think the trick is as well they have learned some humilty and learn to work in synergy, not control these forces and spirits they work with...

But I think the exposure we need to shamanry is in our back yard, and what we need right now is people to point that out to us, and the motivation and intention to "work with" what is in our back yards...

There are a lot of really toxic plants used in africa to alter conciousness. Lots of tropane containing plants from what I recall. Ott had some interesting lists of plants that are snuffed in those traditions.
they also work A LOT with dream inducing plants in south africa... silene root is one example. There are some interesting sites that sell just these south african plants.

 http://changaya.blogspot.com

Thanks

I liked that.
I appreciate it.

Peace,
Steve
eggonalimb.net

utilizing all the tools the divine has provided us

"We live in a world in crisis and we need as many allies as we can get in the cultivation of awareness. The personal growth and healing we need, we need badly, and the earth needs us badly to have this healing for its sake as well."

So, so true. I think these chemical entheogens have come to us to accelerate our evolution and their potency helps to bring into balance our modern world. The heart chakra of modernity is so closed off, yet we have MDMA to instantly radically open it. Material reality has come into being seen as all there is, yet we have LSD to quickly shatter that illusion. We have a new world with more difficulties and possibilities due to technology and chemistry. I think utilizing chemical entheogens in addition to plant entheogens may actually be holistic in our current world. Each substance works with the process at a different angle, and I believe we need all the tools the divine has provided us with to evolve humanity's consciousness and heal the traumas that are obstructing the flow of innate love. I honor your dedication to spreading the knowledge of the variety of such tools available.

"Push on 'til the day." - Trey Anastasio

Thank you and excllent

Thank you and excllent points.
2CB and MDMA especially are so tuned into somantic psychological processes. I firmly beleive that they can heal PTSD and the effects of trauma and help us realize that matter and spirit are panpsychicly one. many of the healing experiences reported in Thantos to Eros for example really focus on a somatic angel. if we refuse to acknolwedge and profane these medicines we miss out on the potential to heal the deep wounds this culture is enduring and perpetuating.

I am currently in the middle of writing another article on the subject of MDMA in shamanic healing work titled "Shamanic Ecstasy."
The more people learn that intention is the key the more we will beging to understand these medicines true potential I beleive, as well as clarify many misunderstandings about shamanry.

 http://changaya.blogspot.com

shamanry

I enjoy your posts very much Mr.Chen Cho Dorge.
Thank you very much.

I remember my own negative predjudice against all chemical drugs
until i experienced Lsd in an outdoor psy-trance party.
I have never before danced and hallucinated like that since.
I remember the tryptamine buzz coming to get me,and i thought it was the remnants of an earlier mushroom trip i had,to my surprise,the tryptamine buzz
drove me into ecstasy and a transformation that still lingers,dancing within me.
I had no idea there could be so much energy in 0ne little tiny drop of liquid from
a suspicious looking plastic bottle.

Bless you.

LSD is truely a marvel and I

LSD is truely a marvel and I think we have yet to truely understand its potential yet. Perhaps in a more enlightened future we will.

 http://changaya.blogspot.com

those people could teach us

those people could teach us a lot, especially us in the West who have little or no exposure to shamanism besides books.
http://www.celexadosage.com

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