What do you know about the "mark of the beast"?

Whether St. John had microchips in mind or not, there is significant overlap between the general description of the Mark of the Beast and the idea of chipping everyone. The benefits for the Controllers are myriad: track the population, the capability of disabling their ability to participate in commerce at the touch of a button ... and then you get into more speculative territory, like, "If the bioelectric field has some significance for consciousness (light body, soul, what have you), then might a chip - even a very simple chip - provide access to that field? The ability to modulate it from a distance? And thus, to exert a subtle control over the thoughts and emotions of the chipped?"

Scary stuff....

There's a movement called 'transhumanism', still active, which I was a peripheral member of until just a few years ago. They advocate not just chipping but bioengineering, cyborgization etc as routes towards the transcension of human limitations (as the name would imply.) Curious that very few people have yet heard of this philosophy, despite it's immense influence at the top levels of society (particularly in technology and defense.)

Backwoods fundie Christians were amongst the first to wake up to the NWO. They got a lot wrong, IMHO, but I don't hold that against them any more: none of us have a completely clear idea of what's coming, and we all interpret it in terms we can understand. Christians see the Rapture, transhumanists the Singularity, Tipler the Omega Point, McKenna the Transcendantal Hyperdimensional Fractal Object at the End of Time. At any rate the Christians got a lot right but ... they get a lot wrong too and that leaves them open to manipulation. You want my opinion, they're working for the very Antichrist they're warning everyone against.

Water under the bridge now. The operative phrase from here out is 'commonality', not 'difference': not how they're wrong but where you're both right. It's time for everyone to act from love, not fear ... or our children's children will have microchips implanted in their brains at birth because we let ourselves be turned into the Borg.

The Revolution is Within

Web search reveals countless applications, but newer micro sized RFID chips are observably small enough to fit inside a vaccine or an injection. (Perhaps unknown to recipient of injections-- Injections inhibit excretion of the chip. Articles to this effect might be found on http://fluscam.com or http://www.theflucase.com/ or deeper web searches). These could easily work like an ID ledger, read or edited by special devices, deployable by authorities, (anywhere they designate--for multiple purposes). New 'health'care bill might conceivably lead towards new efforts to force vaccines on all citizens. (Ultimately world wide enforcement, is theoretically possible). The hope for freedom here is simply a generalized public outrage, on invasion of privacy, by cultic-pharma, GMO-Ag, etc...

What more than ID functionality? Have we looked at selective frequency heterodyning, to interfere with brain waves? Mind control manipulations? My thought is it might not influence worse than digital equipment emissions, or malicious websites for that matter. Besides, the web is the biggest challenge to 'big-brother-ism', at the moment. Fractals, like anything, can be used for positive or for negative purposes. As in the examples kindly posted or even as the "divide and conquer" dictum of empire.

For now, the double speak seems to proliferate. Even mainstream science is becoming infected with corporate strangle holds, since it funds so much of higher education. Is that good science? Is corporate fraud evident? Individuals must study these things well. Expression against public manipulation is the best hope-- In my mind, positive visions of consciousness can conceivably help, in that countless people seem to like the generalized idea of spiritual upliftment. Even a 2012 vision of consciousness-transformation-- So long as it avoids a cultic trend of segregation. So long as dumbing-down can be averted.

To my understanding, Jesus wrote only in the sand, but never designated anyone to write official predictions or revelations-- Instead he left free will for human developments, of societies, etc... Positive, non-sectarian meditations seem to fit the "...where three may gather in my name..." quote. IMHO. The history of the Bible is actually very interesting when the corresponding histories of the Roman and other empires are also studied, including the- Byzantine, European, mid and far eastern empires too. Ultimately, 'Revelations' can become leveled more with human aspirations globally. I got a lot out of the Urantia Book, years ago, on all this... Which concisely reviews the ancient Mediterranean cults, especially "The Mother of God" cults-- Which had to be supplicated, during the underground phase of Christianity. The underground phase was also an endearing bright-spot for slaves-- Later, the official takeover of Christianity by an evil, dying Roman Emperor is also a fascinating subject for review and deeper meditation. However, today there are countless podcasts on basic histories and modern scholarship of current contexts-- See http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/archives/ In the last couple of weeks there were some interesting, scholarly reviews on Christianity, as one example-- http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-gary-null-show-wnye/ I also like some itunesU lectures on Christianity, as from Stanford, i think-- For wider perspectives and to avoid sectarian mind traps, generally. Through wider readings, the "mark of the beast" can also be found questionable in origin and in it's early transmission process, in the hands of persons with unclear agendas. Fundamentalism can be criticized as a lazy-mind attitude.

With all due respect.

You know, it's interesting to me to listen to people compare various prophetic traditions. I read people's comments about the Hopi and 2012 here on Evolver and we all get excited thinking that this massive awakening is at hand. Yet, often those same folks turn their noses up to biblical prophecy b/c of the modern Christian flavor and dogma. Everyone believes in some sort of turning point and yes, every one of them has "signs that have already come to pass", insinuating that we're "almost there."

I, for one, would certainly agree that we are at a pivotal point. The monetary system has been a nice scaffolding for the architecture of global culture but it's crumbling around us. Homo Sapien Sapiens, who all originate from the same hominid in northern Africa 200,000 years ago are now 6 billion strong around the globe and since we've run out of room to run from each other, we're now learning to live together in harmony again. The tribe is coming home, so to speak. Technology is changing the world and humanity like NEVER before. We truly are on the brink.

So, while I'm sure that all of these various religions and traditions have all had their own unique ways of envisioning this time period which, as any intelligent human in the past 5,000 years could look ahead and see was inevitable, I say we don't get too mixed up in the details of "how it's going to happen." Prophecies are a good guess, a way of trying to understand where society is headed in the context of the present, but I fail to see how relevant a tripped-out monk's futurist ramblings in the bronze age are to the choices we have to make here and now.

I'm inspired by the signs of the Hopi, the calendar of the Maya, and the fortellings of the Christian saints... but I also remember that this is 2010. We know a lot that we didn't know before so it's best not to agonize over what this phrase means or what that sign will be... let's just look around and assess what's going on in terms WE can understand here in the 21st century and build a better world accordingly. The folly of religious zealots is thinking the messiah is coming back to clean up our mess, so we don't have to do anything. HA!

Jesus, Pahana, Pacal Votan, Quetzelcoatl, Buddha... no one is coming to save us. We have to grow up, that's what this is. Our initiation into adulthood as a species. You don't become an adult by crying for help from mommy and daddy. You stand up, brush yourself off, and move on into the bright future, using all you have at your disposal to create the best heaven on earth that you can. And then, when we can manage that... the savior and the holy land will have been waiting for us all along.

That's my take, anyway. :)
So sure, the mark of the beast is everywhere. Social Security numbers, ID cards, credit cards, bank accounts, paper money, even IP addresses... we're all "identified" by the system. But that doesn't have to be a bad thing if we make the system ours, everyone's.

cheers
:)

they already did its your social security number get it security for the social(society)without it your pikn strawberriys

Hi Melanie,

I have not read in depth all of the responses you have, so forgive me if I repeat. My expertise is mythology and religious texts. With an extensive study of the bible. But as a cradel catholic, I was given the opportunity to question, especially with the jesuits, and this has led me to being what most christians would call a heretic. And I am happy with that term. Just so you are aware of my bias.

I can't speak to the end of salvationism as well as John Lamb Lash, but he is the best view of these early mystical traditions and the conflict of the early church with the mystics. He has a website called metahistory.org. Also a book, Not in His Image. Really good read, but thick.

As to 666... the mystical traditions of greece, centered on the isle of patomos where john the elder wrote the book of revelations is where this terminology comes from. 666 is a mathematic and geometric mystery. To the greeks there is a magic square that adds up in every directions and diagonals to 666, this square was symbolic of the sun... one of the mystical energetic spirits behind true learning - to the greeks and especially to pythagorians. The christians came into Greece and co-opted these early cuts through either absorption or re-translation. So Sun-god became son god (the reason we celebrate the 7th day of the week as holy is a co-option of the Sun God dominance) BTW, did you know there were 8 days in the week! Which one is missing? Demeter/Sophia/Gaia - the earth day.. that was the original pagan day of sacred celebration... Interesting how the christians suppressed and got rid of that day. To do so they made Mary holy with and began the virgin birth idea (which was not confirmed until 1868) (virgin originally meant cleansed not non-sexual - aka the virgins served the earth goddes as constantly cleansed beings, and holding the eternal flame of the sun in her (yes her) temple... So thats half the story. Sun and earth worked together in balance to bring forth life - the original "christos" (seed) within the womb of the earth.

The other half of the 666 story is geometric. There are two sacred triangles which represented the unity between the god/goddess and human realm to the pythagorian cults.. First was the 3/4/5 triangle which can be summed up as the sum of the squares of the two sides is equal to the square of the hypotenues... this triangle represented real life and our progression through it. 3 - childhood, 4 - adult, and 5 elderhood. The second triangle was the equilateral triangle (balance of the mother/father and child) which could not be summed up in the way the first was arithmetically thus it was labled the 6/6/6 triangle or equal sides and equal angles. Also 30/30/30 angle triangle. This mystical number ads up always to 9... a number which represents the mystical union with the spiritual force behind all things (when things are in balance they are in harmony with creation). 6+6+6=18 - 1+8=9. 3x30=90 9+0=9.... Thus the 666 number was suppressed by the christians because of its liberating power on the individual mind and considered satin (the one of light) because the 666 triangle was the illuminating triangle of truth. Suppress this, turn the battle into good vers evil and then provide the salvationist solution of jesus, who co-opted the chrsitos term, with a promise of heaven to come and you start to erode these early mystery cults. There was a lot of conflict over this.

Everything in revelations is related to the roman empire and has nothing to do with today. But like all things, keep repeating the myth and keep them dumb about it, and you have control over the masses. 666 is no more dangerous than anything. Not even closely related to chips in the head. We need a new vision. Jesus said in the heretical gospels (remember there were many more than 4) that the new age would come when the water-barer nocks on the door... Water barer is acquarius and represents the union of the two forces for a time of enlightenment and freedom. He said, "let him enter and you will be as I am." God forbid the church allows us to be jesus! But that was a heretical belief...

Also, so you are aware. You are probably holding a 666 symbol in your pocket or purse right now. That would be the all-illuminating triangle atop the sacred pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. Yes that's right, the truth will set you free, the masons knew this. 666 is the eye of the all knowing one. Satin (Samael - first servant of god (el) aka the angel of light) was the last challenge before union with god... it is the light tunnel that we see when we die... before we merge back with the one...

Isn't this fun. You can't convince any one of the salvationists that they don't need to be saved. They are so couched in their mythology and belief that there is no way out for them. But believe me, its all social control. Knowledge is freedom, but then you become dangerous, because you become a knower, a gnostic... the first group to be eilimnated from the early church... fredom and knoweldge are dangerous... Kill the heretics! (no! just kidding)

Have fun! Evolove... keep researching the truth. And then choose for your self. You do not need to be saved, you are already there.

Well I used to be a Practicing Anarchist, so I studied alot about this type of stuff. I found it pretty interesting. I also was religious at the time and I agree alot of the things in the bible overlap with the microchip. I will try to give a little insight to what I know about it.

First the microchip may be better understood by the name of RFID. ( Radio Frequency Identification). RFID has been used alot throughout the last 20 years or so, but kind of on the down low. Now it is becoming more mainstream. IBM and other big corporations like King Soopers are beginning to use and advertise it's use for shipments and packaging etc. They can place an RFID chip in every shipment and track it's location. Also IBM has been airing commercials about the use of RFID in consumerism. Basically, you get it implanted in your arm, hand forehead etc, and you can simply walk through a scanner to buy your groceries.

RFID has also begun to scratch the surface of other aspects of life such as Medical use. For one I got an X ray in the summer of 2010 and the board that my arm sat on had some sort of RFID chip inside they just took a picture of my arm. Scanned the tray etc. Also the use of implanted RFID that can carry such information as Health Records, Social Security Numbers, etc etc.

Researchers have done studies such as putting RFID in products then tracked the products long distance. What I have heard which may or may not be unbiased, is that eventually corporations would like to have an RFID chip insight virtually every product. You then scan the RFID chip to register the products( RFID's within products) to your name. This is possible because RFID is a non electrical device. It doesn't need electricity or a power source to work. It simply bounces a Radio Frequency back to a satillite or scanner showing the unique ID contained within. Also RFID's that aren't used for human implantation, are generally made to be smaller then a grain of sand. A lot of conspiracy theorists theorize that, eventually with the coming of the NWO, Digits will be the new global currency. you buy products which are charged as "digits", an electronic form of currency, based mostly on credit and register the products RFID numbers to your profile.

King Soopers is beginning trials of using RFID in they're meat shipments, and it is true that a family in Florida a number of years ago, tested Implanted RFID chips, which gained plausible amounts of publicity. RFID is also usually what is implanted in your animals microchips if I'm not mistaken.

I'm trying to simply portaythis unbiased. I think information is better understood if unbiased so I'm not gonna say, Oh RFId is the mark of the beast! NWO! ahhh!!! But I will say RFID is the future of our already peaking consumerist lifestyle.

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