$ Collapse, Faux Money and Real Tender

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I don't want anyone to think this is a teaching or spiritual. It isn't, it is my conscious telling me to inform good people so they can prepare. The worst that can happen is you make some or loss a little money in silver. However, everything I have researched and my time on Forex trading I see a $ collapse coming and others all over the world do also.

As we now know war has been declared in the US against anyone the government deems a threat to national security. Considering the paranoid fear flowing from Washington about terrorism it would behoove us to protect ourselves and distance ourselves from these maniacs. Considering you have a better chance of being eaten by a shark or being killed by a champagne bottle cork terrorism should be the least of your worries.

However, a good thing to worry about is a group of 500+ criminal thugs running our country into the ground. Now I shouldn't have to explain this but I"m going to put it in simple terms. The Fed Reserve is printing money to pay our debts. This is no different they writing checks against your bank account while it has no money. A bit more complex but the same concept. In this case the Fed Has granted our government an unlimited credit line so that line of credit means every time they print a dollar your dollar is worth a little bit less. This gets worse when the rest of the world decides our currency is so worthless they don't buy our debt anymore. And I think you get the picture. If you think this wont happen well it's already begun and is moving at a faster and faster pace. Devaluation is right around the corner.

Don't believe me just do a search on China and Japan sign worlds largest ever trade agreement and US is not involved and neither is our money. These are the 2nd and 3rd largest economies in the world.

So what do you do before your greenbacks are pretty much toilet paper? Well there are still hundreds of tons of US currency coins available and foreign coins in the form of .999 .90 and .35 Silver mostly .90 silver. Liberties are .999 silver which is what is traded on the market and considered to be worth at least what the market is trading at and since those are volume trades we can always round that up to the next nearest dollar or $5.00 increment. Then there is gold but a gold liberty is worth about $1600 you don't want to have to many of those laying around. So I would say and it's common practice to have 90% of your cash worth in silver and the remaining 10% in gold. For me that isn't to much gold at today rates.

There is no law that says you have to use or accept US Treasure Notes as money. I myself sell a lot of items on Craigslist and E-bay and would take silver as payment anytime. Actually at this point I would prefer it.

Now to preempt this catastrophe so there will not be major panic spread the word on how to value silver. It's easy, what ever it's trading at is what it's worth currently. So it's real simple, if 1oz of silver is worth $30.00 then a 1 Oz Liberty coin is worth at least $32.00 since the price is in bullion not coin we ad a small percentage to adjust. That's it. But this is where we have to return to a barter system. Lets say I have a dime .90 silver it's a 10th of an ounce. that's $3.00 because it's already adjusted because it's at .90. This is why we like .90 silver coins. They are all adjusted and ready to spend. Now that 1/10 oz is worth $3.00 and you want a loaf of bread. Well under a barter system it isn't easy to get exact change so you would say ask for something else like a pack of gum or and apple or two to make up the difference. See how it works.

So unless the coin or silver bars are marked and I would trade unmarked silver bars and learn how to test the silver they are considered .90 silver. Just search that also. Now any quarter or dime Minted before 1965 that means dated 1964 or earlier by the US was .90 silver. The only nickles I know of that have any silver are the WWII series which were nickles minted in 1942 to 1945 and they are .35 silver. Since they are much larger then the 1964 and later dimes they are worth about the same.

I would say start preparing to have silver on hand, maybe even start trading silver amongst your close friends and local businesses for things, so you can start getting a feel for how to do the barter thing. Most americans don't have a clue how to barter.

You can also search the towns and cities that are actually using different monetary systems and their own coinage instead of the Faux US dollar.

So when and not if, the dollar collapses be ready with some money made of real precious metal this way you are not left with toilet paper to buy goods with.

If anyone else has some more info please share it this was about as knowledgeable as I could get in a week.

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Please clarify a few things?

Firstly-I know very little about economics. Where is a good place to exchange my paper money for silver? And more importantly why is silver and gold worth anything to begin with? If the economic system does collapse - silver seems to have no nutritional qualities, no medicinal benefits, very little benefits at all it would seem. I would prefer to barter in goods that have practical value of physical, emotional, spiritual, or intellectual value. But like I said I know very little of these things.

No Problem

The reason silver and gold have always had value is their rarity. Since they are rare people have always put value in them. They were the basis for the money in the US when we operated under what was known as the Gold standard. Each paper dollar was represented by an = portion of gold. There were gold and silver certificates. Gold has a 0 corrosion factor, every piece of gold ever found still exists it will never corrode away like other metals. In addition both gold and silver are very pliable metals to work with. Makes working with them for jewelry and other items much easier then steel.

Silver and Gold will always have value to their rarity. Though you may not put value in them as of right now if you are spending dollars you are actually just spending paper that has a promise of value. Paper is not rare, it can be readily made and this is why we are in trouble.

Since you mention nutrition none hybrid seeds are actually a great investment as well as a means to grow them. Food and seeds have outperformed gold and silver in the past during hard economic times around the world. I would recommend both or all. Food will always have a serious barter value. However, storing food in mass has it's difficulties.

Gold and silver also do carry metaphysical properties that are recognized back to the dawn of many spiritual belief systems when humans were more in touch with their consciousnesses. This I believe is the true attractions to the metals.

GOLD - This symbolizes the purity of the spiritual aspect of "All That Is". It is symbolic of spiritual development in the realm of complete understanding, allowing one to both attain and maintain communion with the source of all being. It emits an energy to prompt one to allow beauty to come forth from the inner being as one travels through the world of experiences. It assists one to activate, to mobilize and to actualize the intrinsic potential of the self. The energy of gold can assist one in the elimination of ego conflicts and feelings of futility. It balances the heart chakra and amplifies thought forms. Gold has been used to open the third-eye and is an excellent mineral for purification of the physical body.

SILVER - It is a mirror to the soul and stimulates seeing oneself outside of the body. This sight is without judgmental attitudes and provides one with patience and perseverance. It assists in increased perception and helps to regulate the emotional and intuitive energies. Silver provides a very strong connection between the physical and astral bodies assuring that one may always come home from the astral plane. It tends to strengthen the "silver cord" and diminishes the unconscious fear of the inability to return. It is known to enhance the powers of the moon and is an excellent mineral for use in energizing other stones during full and new moons. The malleability of silver is conducive to causing energies to bend and to even become circular, enabling vital centers to be opened, stimulated, cleared and activated. Silver helps to cleanse the body and to eliminate toxins at the cellular level.

Hope that helps,

Church of Quantum Consciousness

Thanks for the detailed reply.

If there was some sort of systemic collapse, it would seem that the majority of the precious metals would be in the hands of the very few- making me wonder if we should still be using it to barter with. It's difficult to say how things will play out; what scenario we would be dealing with. Perhaps we will all be telepathic and will no longer need to barter per se. :)

The tangible benefits you mention of the these two metals make them valuable enough on their own, but not so valuable that I would take them over something I could use to feed and care for those that I love; in desperate times. It's hard to decide how to prepare for any given situation when I make a little over minimum wage and don't have the support of my family with it.

I appreciate your detailed respose, thanks.

From my research here is what happens.

This is what happens, other countries stop buying our debt so the government can't pay it's bills. This is already happening, china the major purchaser of US debt is dumping dollars very quickly and making agreements with other debt purchasers to trade outside the dollar. While they are still buying debt this has become a greatly reduce amount while at the same time they are getting rid of their major holdings in dollars. So by buying dept the keep us alive while they unload as much US reserve money as they can. Other countries are doing the same thing.

The fed then declares a bank holiday when they intend on devaluing the money bringing it towards its true backed value. Bernaki in nov of 2002 gave a speech to this and said he would take five steps in a sustained depression which by all standards we have been in for a long time. He has taken the first 4 steps and the only one left is the devaluation. When this happens you will see over the bank holiday the value of the dollar against gold go down 40%. This is the first stage you are instantly worth 40% less overnight. Then because the dollar is worth less stores are forced to raise prices 40%, then cost to deliver go up gas goes up and the buying power for crude is greatly reduced and when our currency is no longer the world standard which a devaluation will cause we no longer enjoy the deeply discounted oil prices we get now. This means gas could in less then a week or two go up to a more realistic price of $15.00 to $20.00 per gallon. I say realistic because this is what most countries pay equivalently. When our world standard class is gone then we loose our discounted oil rates. Now this mean that prices in the stores continue to rise as cost of transport rises. Companies usually react to this type of thing with lay offs and reduced pay to compensate for the extra expenditures.

I would say past the initial bank holiday we would be looking at a downward economical spiral until everything is rebalanced. I have read estimates that with in a month a loaf of bread could cost around $8 to $10. Remember this would be every item you buy going up like this until a new balance is struck. Then because we are not the world currency standard as we are now, our dollar is solely valued against our gross national output which in economics standards must be less then we consume or we further devalue our money. Right now the US consumes about 5 times what it produces that is a major difference that will get adjusted for in hyper inflation. Only if you are in a gold standard which we are not can you use that to balance your moneys worth. 20 years ago Ron Paul and others even back to JFK wanted us back on a gold standard to avert this kind of problem. But the fed and it's insane backers have done everything to maintain control of our currency through the privately owned and run Fed Reserve.

So it is a complete spiral effect, now lets say today you own gold an silver and not paper. Then the dollar is devalued and it's value continues to drop. You would instantly retain the 40% loss in a gold to dollar ratio that increases 40%. So if gold is 1500 before the holiday it is instantly worth 2100 upon opening of the market after the holiday. You still have the same net worth and instantly compensate for the adjustment in the face value of your metal compared to the paper. This remains and continues to adjust as a hyper inflation sets in. So as long as you are holding gold or silver the value adjust to the dollar. If your holding dollars they adjust to the gold. So Friday you can buy an ounce of gold for $1500 but if you wait till after the bank holiday now it will cost you $2100. So if you bought at $1500 you sell back and your net worth doesn't change. In fact it will grow because the demand for hard metals will go through the roof as people try to dump the devalued money. This is historical fact with every country that has ever gone through a devaluation.

Since all signs are pointing to a future devaluation, this includes JP Morgan, Chase and most other major banks are buying tons of HARD GOLD this is driving the price. Even HSBC a Mexican based bank is no longer trading US dollars on the market. They are only buying investments in Passos "spelling". These are the signs they know it's coming. In addition the US gov seems to be trying to balance their books since 2008 they have been steadily buying more reserve gold. So if they do switch back to a gold standard to save the monetary system you paper could actually be worth pennies on the dollar or worse nothing.

They can literally like they did in the south after the civil war discard the old currency entirely then you have nothing. Worse case however, they will usually buy the old currency back at pennies on the already discounted value for the new currency. It's a very ugly outlook but very plausible considering our 16 trillion debt that is growing monthly. Just today it was announce they are asking for another debt ceiling increase.

As for your question about why don' they own it all, well there is much more then they have money. So just as money there is limited amounts and many people will not sell in the buck rates huge buyers want. So there is plenty to go around. Plus I think you will see a major increase in prospectors. Before a gram or two of gold you are panning for wasn't worth it but at the current rates a gram or two of gold is a couple hundred dollar a day income. So there will be a supply of gold and silver as the value goes up little guys like us can start prospecting and actually making a living but it is still rare enough and in high enough demand to keep new gold flowing. Remember once the gold is locked up there is still demand that creates the market for new gold.

Church of Quantum Consciousness

Trillion $ lawsuit...

Hello Rev,

You are probably familiar or have heard about this but just in case I am curious as to what you think of this? Namaste....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbeBNe3Oml4

I have heard

I'm going to listen to the whole interview but any basis in the establishment right now is shaky at best. I would say developing community standards of real silver and gold currency outside of the major currency is a better step as you can always buy into the new formations as they arise should you choose.

I will listen to the whole interview and update this later.

Church of Quantum Consciousness

Just a note

Gold is up $40 an ounce and Silver is up $1.74 an ounce on the heals of the NDAA signing in just a few hours of trading. However it is still lower then the top at around $45 an ounce when the big banks were loading up on it. Now that the price is down they will buy buy buy and drive it up again.

Church of Quantum Consciousness

Martial Law

If what you say is true, then there's going to be tanks in the streets to have to control the people. I honestly can't afford to buy anything right now, I wish I could-but I can barely afford to feed myself, and pay the necessary bills. Kind of sucks that the younger generations were born into this insanity.

It's ok you don't have to buy silver or gold

It's ok, there are a lot of things you can do, first learn how to support yourself outside the system, and the info is all online download it and print it out so you have a hard copy.

Learn what plants are edible and their nutrition value, learn how to make traps to trap wild animals. Learn how to purify water and make a simple distiller for emergencies. have a route out of the madness, I guarantee you will meet up with people. Learn how to be self sufficient and then if there is a need to vacate an area you will have something to offer and teach others so you can band together.

There is a small field behind my house that I know produces enough wild edible plants to sustain many households. The trick is simple know which ones. Also in tough times never mow your lawn it will produce much food in the weeds that grow in the yard.

Knowledge is the greatest power any person can have.

Church of Quantum Consciousness

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