Enough about Earth Changes and Evolution Already!
posted by Salma | April 26, 2010
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IcerocketIf I read one more disgusting and smug blog about how mother nature is 'cleaning up' and that people deserve to die...I will be convinced that no one is evolving and the whole idea of it is just a new age scam. So, anyone here want to tell us that Mother Earth is cleaning up Tibet because the women show too much skin ...and they deserve to die. Is anyone going to suggest that they are simply homo sapiens and that their death is making way for the homo spiritus? Who on this earth as a group are more spiritual than the Tibetans? I don't know what is going on but I know what is not going on. I'm not mad, I'm sad and dismayed that educated people could even make such statements and that others actually believe them. Here's something my friend's new age teacher told his class, "many people will choose to collectively die in natural disasters (as if) because they 'just cannot hold enough light during the shift.' Please! This is insulting to my intelligence. Especially when we see what has happened in Tibet, of all the people on this planet who cannot hold the so-called 'light' does anyone think Tibetans, on the whole, represent that crowd? Do they show too much skin? Are they not spiritual enough? Are they ruining the environment? Are they adding to the collective negativity on the planet that needs to be cleared away? Are they apart of the crumbing system that needs to be replaced?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/16/china-earthquake-monastery-y...
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— Apr 26, 2010
I was thinking about this too lately. Saying that mother earth is taking revenge on humans for our misdeeds is like Pat Robertson saying the Haiti Earthquake was caused because of their Voodoo practice, or Katrina because people are Gay.
No, it's because we are building stupidly and crowding around coastlines and building cities on top of faultlines. Eventually we will learn the hard way. Natural disasters happen... we've had it pretty easy the past century.
Cheers
Thank you Rob
— Apr 26, 2010
I couldn't have said it better myself and it's something I inadvertently left out of my blog but what you say here makes way more sense than all the new age/religious excuses I hear flying around.
Find you soul...it's the one thing only you can do.
finger pointing
— Apr 26, 2010
It has always puzzled my how basic an instinct is it for people to place the blame for all unfortunate happenings on one tangible entity.
Whether it's blaming gay people for katrina and the war in iraq or wallstreet for our economic collapse, humans (and im not excluding myself on this) seem to have a need to point their fingers at what they think to be the cause of a problem
regardless of whether it a completely preposterous claim like God punishing America for accepting homosexuality, or a fairly reasonable claim like greed financial irresponsibility causing the economic crisis, it brings absolutely nothing positive to the table.
For example, nothing was ever accomplished by blaming Hitler for the holocaust. If the German people and the rest of the world had have stood up and started taking personal responsibility for the government corruption, then things might not have gotten so bad
this is exactly what we need to do as a nation. we can point fingers all we want, but in the end, it is up to us to make the changes.
I'd watch out
— Apr 26, 2010
for any new age "teacher". Claim sounds ridiculous coming from anyone.
All bridges can be rebuilt.
A NEW AGE INDEED
— Apr 26, 2010
The Georgia guide stones are a great example of this mindset. Checkout a video about them on youtube, im sure you have run into them if your into conspiracy facts. I Dont buy into the fear and paranoia on the probable existence of Elite super plans to force proto fascism--of the third kind--- on the people of earth.....because I know in my heart they will fail. Verily. What is interesting to me is that the philosophy imbedded into these fascist elite oligarchies resembles so much the new age movement in its end game... To purify the earth, protecting nature from us !the masses! How new agey these fiends be! Its like imagining Bush and Cheney or better, fucking Rockefeller and Hitler, pontificating in lovely untouched pastures, living infinitely as techno gods on a bed of fertile soil, beneath the sour apple water falls eating the grapes and rotten children. A new age indeed.
All these "new age terms"
— Apr 26, 2010
All these "new age terms" have corresponding scientific definitions. Holding enough light? Yes that does sound like woo woo. The correct way to say it is, if the aura(capacitive field coherence) isn't fractal, that is a loss of light. It will be a wonderful day when the new agers start using correct language. Not to mention when you build metal buildings in places of electric coherence what do you think happens? It destroys coherence. Not all places are meant for human settlement. What happens when the earth losing coherence? Earthquakes and all types of natural disasters. That is the only way I see mother earth "cleansing" anything.
Maybe these may be of some interest to you:http://www.evolver.net/user/pod4/blog/secret_science_ecstacy_and_immortality
http://www.evolver.net/user/pod4/blog/errors_science_will_cost_you_your_...
http://www.goldenmean.info/jesusphysics/
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it seems like we fall in the
— Apr 27, 2010
it seems like we fall in the same trap over an over... whatever it is that we think we know we run out and tell as many as we can just to make sure we are right and they are wrong...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aLWHGJLN7s
people say things because they think they are right... but we are not... nobody here knows what is happening, we feel the symptoms but we don't know what we are sick of... at least I don't. In FB there has been big arguments about conspiracy vs system and what is the conclusion?? that some ppl say yes some no, some write a huge explanation to state his/her case and what was concluded... that we don't know... or at least we don't agree...
I think maybe we should begin by saying what we honestly believe it's going to happen or that we wish happens... so we can at least have a common ground... what kind of ppl do we want as part of this? do we have to be all inclusive? I'm not saying lets kick whoever disagrees but what do we want to do? run to the forest and build yurts? continue with the spores to show others what we know? and what do we know exactly?how to obtain the "light"?... I might be talking out of my ass but I sense a lot of certainty in the blogs... we all seem to know what's going on and why but we all disagree or don't agree quite enough (beliefs anyone?)... I think is because we don't know what we are doing and I don't think there is anything wrong with that but at least we have to admit it.
"I think maybe we should
— Apr 27, 2010
"I think maybe we should begin by saying what we honestly believe it's going to happen or that we wish happens... so we can at least have a common ground..."
At this time it is all very clear what is going to happen, you just have to know where to look. The scientific method applied to spiritual/religious ideas. What we need a language of rigor. It is a fact that the sun has flares, what happens if one hits the earth? 1000 kids singing at once in harmony has steered the flares away from the earth 13 times! Now if that isn't scientific enough I don't know what is. Who ever wants to become fractal(sharable) can come. The rest won't make it anyways as non fractal creates heat when compressed. the "light" is created by attracting charge to yourself and there is physics behind that. So going to the forest would increase your charge as opposed to modern cities which bleed charge coherence. It would be awesome if we built living structures instead of our current housings.
The first step is education though. There is quite a bit of information out there on fractal physics. If we all dropped everything we were doing and digested goldenmean.info maybe we could understand it and incorporate it within the next 2 years.
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1000 kids singing at once in
— Apr 27, 2010
1000 kids singing at once in harmony has steered the flares away from the earth 13 times......
really? when? where? how?
Attention itself creates
— Apr 27, 2010
Attention itself creates compression. The solar waves are a giant fractal. So the only way to steer it is with a giant body of awareness. Also attention alone has measurably reduced radioactivity. If you stare at a wall long enough you will make an implosion point there. Imagine 1000 people doing the exact same thing?
You can find out more at http://www.goldenmean.info/powerpoint/index2.html
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If only that were true
— Apr 29, 2010
While I do not understand how what you wrote relates to my blog, non-the-less, if what you wrote is actually a fact and not just a belief, why not organize a demonstration for all to witness. Show us and the world how that works in action, because that is really quite a powerful ability that we could put to good use and of course it could also be abused. That is the scientific method, it must be repeatable, a demonstration must be made for analysis and critique. Why let it sit dormant in the realm of philosophy and theory? If it has already been done, please urge them to publish it in a scientific journal so that other scientists can study it and find good uses for it. If it's more about prayer and religion, than, I have to say, people pray all the time and still get pooed on.
Awareness itself compresses
— Apr 29, 2010
Awareness itself compresses electrical fields. I'm not sure if its in any pushed works, i'm sure it is. For me I reproduce it myself and that is the proof for me. A lot of this stuff is simple because it is "pure principle". Also there are a lot of truths that don't get published for whatever reason. Its not that it isn't published its that it takes a synthesis of all the information provided. And I already gave you the scientific data. Did you look over that link? It is a power point with all the information, you can go look it up in "official publications" everything he is saying. So whats important is not the children singing in harmony but awareness and attention itself. That is the pure principle of it. Science says the solar flares are magnetic ejections, what can steer magnetic fields? First you must ask what can implode or compress a magnetic field? Attention compresses magnetic fields. It is also about prayer and religion somewhat, religion being the hygiene of compression, not some personality worship. So the reason why I commented is because I hope to raise consciousness through a more exacting langauge instead of all the woo woo new age terms.
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Thanks for explaining that
— Apr 29, 2010
I will have to try it. I can tell you this, when I place my awareness on some internal conflict, something happens and I feel a release of sorts, I feel myself move back to balance or center or back to that quiet still place where there is no conflict, and it's quite amazing.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if our collective attention works the same way. Is this what you are saying? I do get a sense that some new age philosophical ideas are based on stuff that really happens and it's one way of explaining it. I suppose all religions try to explain the mysterious as best they can and the stories sometimes seem strikingly similar and sometimes they sound just plain crazy, but really, they're trying to explain something that they perceive as real, and I find that interesting. I like to get to the root of things. There are so many paradoxes and nuances.
Sometimes I think scientist are looking in the wrong place for answers. Sometimes the mysteries are hidden in places that are difficult to measure and control. If it works for you, more power to you, that's what I say. I wouldn't dismiss something if there is empirical evidence, even if I disagree with the explanation. :-)
Find you soul...it's the one thing only you can do.
Also if you would like to
— Apr 29, 2010
Also if you would like to prove it yourself hands on, usually children can do it better; if you focus your attention on a cloud for long enough you can create a hole in the cloud. The physics of that is your attention organizes the mist in the cloud and what is that called? Rain. So in the area of attention it will rain and create a hole! The feeling is like none other to go outside and with attention alone, make it rain. Normally it would have to be a very powerful individual to make it rain by themselves. Take a group of 8 kids though and its simple. You could even make it more powerful if you where to arrange the people into a fractal pent grid on the land. You could share a psyche that way and radioactivity is also measurable reduced from attention alone. So there is something for the kids and the adults! Also if you take every religion and strip away all the personality worship what do you get? A hygiene to become fractal. The personality worship was only put in place so the priest could control the people but the true religion is starting to come back. There is some artistic license with the information but as long as they comply with the pure principles you can weave that into an interesting story as a teaching tool.
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I guess I'll have to fly the
— Apr 27, 2010
I guess I'll have to fly the flag for the "new agers" then. The increase in geological activity we are seeing is a result of the increasing amount of energy being integrated by Gaia as we enter a higher vibrational density within the galaxy or logos. She is releasing negative energy from the sphere as we collectively approach zero point and this energy can be released anywhere on Earth, while I don't necessarily believe large groups of people choose to die before they are born I do think people choose to have experiences within incarnations to help trigger growth.
feet on the ground, head in the clouds
— Apr 27, 2010
I too feel disillusioned with the so-called "conscious" subculture. I myself had to go through much loneliness and separation to be able to arise from the ashes of my own self-hatred and make true progress of the soul. People are not always what they seem. Many people I have had the delight of meeting recently, at first, seemed like regular middle-aged teachers at my school. It turns out about 30 or 40 of the faculty participate in Kirtan rituals regularly, they;ve managed to raise their vibration, but keep their feet on the ground and their work centered in this world - where it is needed.
"Soon we'll find out who is the real revolutionaries." -- Robert Nesta Marley
Don't worry we'll stop the maddness
— Apr 27, 2010
What we tend to forget as we go on this journey is that not only are we inexorably linked with each other, but we are linked with Mother Earth too. We all went through, or are going through, our own energetic detox. So too, does Mother Earth. We're not the only ones raising vibrations and consciousness. Our actions affect Gaia too, either positively or negatively. These "crazy" weather patterns are going to continue for a while. What we need to do, is not move our cities, but GET IN TUNE. There is a growing body of scientific information out there, providing like such gropus as the Global Coherene Initiative that is beginning to prove when Mother Earth goes through her processes, if we would just LISTEN we'd know it was coming, and know that it was time to move, take a vaca and then come back, whatever. People have felt earthquakes before they were going to happen. It's that connection we are missing, and if when we get back to being in tune these hiccups will be much more managable, and not so life threatening.
We'll get there.
Possible View Point
— Apr 27, 2010
As Mother Earth is of a greater category of entity ... little itches and scratches .. sneezing s and coughs ... to her would be things of little consequence .. but to us they are major surface disturbances.
Just like accumulating germs in our body cause us to want to cough and sneeze .. so as to detoxify
So we may be adding to symptoms .. our present strain of "human germ" having a viral effect on the "planetary ether"
Just as we don't think of all these germ colonies in our body as we sneeze. So Mother Earth may not be that threatened or angry ... just going through a seasonal detox ... from a more cosmic perspective
Yet the earth may be experiencing other cosmic influences beyond human, of even greater proportions ... which are simultaneously effecting our collective psyche's.
As likely as many connections can be made as not ...
you are subdividing peoples
— Apr 27, 2010
you are subdividing peoples opinions into groups. "new agers" are the same as "you" with different experience. I see so much oxymoronic perpetuation on this site. it went to humourous to feeling a bit sorry. but the space between us is always, always, always showing us the next step. its our filters that we keep shutting off and adding that blind us from the truth. the way i see it.
Seriously, you want to see change? start with yourself. and it would be completely selfish and inflated for anyone including myself to say that they have it all figured out and that these othter peolpe need to know. its not your job. it will be when you are employed by what animates EVERYTHING.
It isn't that hard to have
— Apr 27, 2010
It isn't that hard to have it all figured out. A true questioning heart and a little intuition/luck and you can get it. I must say I have it pretty much figured out lol. Now does that matter? No, you can have it figured out but not have it applied. I have enough understanding to inhabit the sun, from there who knows what will happen? There will always be a mystery though...somewhere. Personally I feel it is my job to spread the word. Have you seen the sources im referring to? So until someone tells me about a higher science then fractal science which turns out, there isn't one then thats what i will focus on.
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dan winters.
— Apr 27, 2010
dan winters. igorfrankenstein2. there is SOOOOOO much info but i have yet to see any application methods for the info. I am open because I feel that there is truth in his findings.
Here are some of the
— Apr 27, 2010
Here are some of the practical applications. Well first off, anything where you could use the self ordering principle, for instance if you have polluted water or polluted air? Send it through a fractal and it self orders! The pollution goes one way the good stuff the other way. Self ordered or "living water" is what the religions call "holy water". The most important application I think is the heart link. It allows you to measure your eeg for golden mean ratio which allows you to connect minds together and can teach empathy and love. Also he cracked the hydrogen code which allows for some crazy things!
http://www.goldenmean.info/goldenproof/
It is overwhelming proof that the human body itself creates gravity! Do you know what that means? No devices required for time travel!
Here is a link for some of the practical tech though:
http://www.fractalfield.com/
Infinite non-destructive compression: You could have a DVD that held ALL knowledge, it would have infinite space! also solves cold fusion problems. Most if not all important breakthroughs have always been about fractals in some form or another. From Tesla to Einstein..the list goes on.
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Again, no clear, concise applications, just neverending info
— Apr 28, 2010
it seems like each word in every paragraph has a link that that leads to seemingly the same thing, a paragraph of links. Im not slandering or hating, you sent me a few hundred links, and i appreciate the gesture and thought. How funny it is that I post this - http://www.evolver.net/user/jkf/blog/reflections_26_years_later - today. i only send you one, this is what im on about.
I still keep the same notion that there is truth in what dan has found, yet i see nothing but prerequisite info that is seemingly never-ending. Holleur.
prerequisite of a prerequisite of a prerequisite.........
— Apr 28, 2010
Yes the site is a giant fractal and it is an initiation in itself. It brings you through chaos! When I found the information about 10 or so years ago i started off slow, but then i bombed through the whole site. How do we learn anything? Repetition. So how do we unlearn all the bullshit we have learned? So in a sense it is never ending. A fractal is the doorway to infinity. So my advice is to start from the very first article and go from there. You personally asking questions and not taking is word for it. The true seeker will always find what hes looking for.
Ill check out your blog, all i'v seen is the pic so far and thats funny as hell! So it should be good.
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it's not revenge
— Apr 27, 2010
All death is related to a soul's particular karma, it is balance, not revenge. Karma is applicable across all lifetimes, time being simultaneous from that frame off reference. The most spiritually evolved being can still see the effect of a past or future action the same as anyone else.
What if the idea of karma is a lie
— Apr 29, 2010
What if we are born pure and become infected with something that gives us so-called karma that never had anything to do with us. In other words, the karma is not ours, and karma is a lie.
I think for myself. I do not just follow what is being given to me to believe. I use my own common sense and common sense says to me, the poor and oppressed people of the world are not suffering because of their so-called karma. They are suffering because of human intervention in their lives and because of natural conditions and forces not related to their own karma, and yes sometimes because of their attitudes and sometimes just because.
Karma is a great excuse to separate people into categories, to feel superior to another, to get people to refrain from complaining about their place or lot in life, and to justify why one should not offer anyone else assistance. Karma was invented by the elite and was used by the elite to secure their stature in society. It's a man-made idea, like all ideas. There are other explanations for remembering past lives and why bad things happen to good people other than 'that's simply their karma.' You don't have to believe it and I'm sure you won't. For me karma is something for us all to shed (not experience) along with all the other things in our lives that have never had anything to do with us.
I think the most important
— Apr 29, 2010
I think the most important thing to do is think for yourself. So if you really do think for yourself you will examine this statement:
Karma (see Pope - above): The continuous self organizing electrical restoration of implosive symmetry at the core of DNA"s collective charge field. Simply put - if you disturb the implosive/ fractal / phase conjugate distribution of charge which allows DNA to store and distribute it's survival info library - then the library's electric field- will cause you DESTRUCTIVE ELECTRIC WAVE INTERFERENCE ( the only biologic meaning of evil: waves which FAIL to embed... in the fractal - grail!)
As with understanding it takes much work, but all the points are well documented in the scientific literature.
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I want to understand this
— Apr 29, 2010
It's a new concept for me and I don't understand it yet probably because of the language. Where can I learn more about this in a way that eases me into the esoteric language.
I'm not saying there is no such thing as karma, I am say that some of it has been imposed upon us artificially. Well, also, I suppose the very construction of out bodies can be called karma too?
The stuff we inherited from our parents, through no fault of our own perhaps. We are copies of them after all, yet we are not them. See, nuances, paradoxes...nothing is as it seems at first, yet everything is simple once it's been revealed, patterns...I look for patterns.
I'd like to learn more about this because it's fun and interesting to explore new ideas, so if you have sources to share, that'd be awesome. I'll take a look at the ones you've posted already here for now.
Sometimes, even if something seems like complete b.s. or gobblygook, (not saying what you wrote is that, just using this as an example) there is truth hidden in there somewhere, like the blind people and the elephant. The map is not the territory, the concept, the description, the idea is not the real thing, it's just our attempt at explaining it, so, I'm open.
Find you soul...it's the one thing only you can do.
I think for starters to need
— Apr 29, 2010
I think for starters to need to have a curious questioning mind. You seem to have that and thats the greatest hurdle! I don't think im very smart, I simply read and formed a question based on my current understanding. That added to never giving up until you get your answer and your on your way. Sometimes it might take a week sometimes a month until it comes to you but if you ask you will get your answer. So its really about what your current level of understanding is, what exactly is your interest? How I started is I felt tingling in my body when I felt love then I found a source explaining that. What really is love? The Lo-phi harmonics in your heart. So it all revolves around the golden mean ratio. Here is a site about everything golden mean related: http://goldennumber.net/
After that its just a lot of cross referencing. So if you read something without asking the question that corresponds with the answer that you just got, it will go right over your head. Then I found out love is in the ekg as golden ratio! After that love is the trigger of a sonic pump at the base of your spine leading ultimately to a halo popping out of your head. All that from a simple question.
I think the first place to start off is the glossary of terms: http://www.evolver.net/group/con_sci_ence_synapse/discussion/words_defin... and from there you can figure out everything else. So based on what your interests are for instance, The science of rainmaking: http://goldenmean.info/rain/index.html
Take it one step at a time and slow and steady wins the race;)
Ps To symbolize is to embed
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My concept of karma
— May 12, 2010
I view karma as being a way to conceptualize the larger perspective of cause and effect. As a concept, it only applies if your think it does, as your thought energy creates your reality. Someone who views it as not existing will not see its effects and someone who views it as a reality will tend to see the correlations in their life. Along with this, even if it doesn't "exist", it still functions to guide one's actions in a manner that takes into consideration far-reaching ramifications, and the way you interact with your world as a result. I personally believe that consciousness transcends space and time, and in this your soul has the capacity to choose every aspect of your "existence", including your parents, and every other element of your life and its events as part of the process of incarnation. It is a very tough concept to accept, as you can never blame your current situation on outside conditions, and are forced to accept responsibility for the entirety of your experience. All experiences are steps on the path of consciousness evolution, whether viewed as "good" or "bad" by a particular perspective, they all function to facilitate learning on the broader scale.
finally a topic to chime in on....
— Apr 27, 2010
When the Shaman returns with the vital tool of elbow-grease, the first thing that is SEEN are two hands, that lead to two more hands, and so forth and so on- just as the mess has revealed itself - open eyes are much better capable to handle the tasks at hand. 'Cause the ones that know how to DO, are surely not standing around with their fingers in the air.
Perhaps we have an imbalance of these shamans unprepared to return to these tasks that we're all waiting for a sign how to proceed properly.
For surely when SHE has to pull so many innocent people aside that can no longer protect themselves in this world- it is not a lesson for the dead- but a lesson for the ones that are willing not to be dead any more. Awaken with her and she speaks directly with you.
It just is.
— Apr 27, 2010
Every occurrence in the universe happens. It is only our rational minds which try to make up a reason for why it happened. The spider web of souls goes on forever, and the decisions that go along with one particular stream of light are their own. They have chosen what is.
Salma, I completely
— Apr 27, 2010
Salma, I completely understand how you feel! I really do! The first time I read "You Can Heal Your Life" by Louise Hay, there were things in the book that made me angry. I read the book soon after Hurricane Katrina occurred. She made me angry because she basically said that each and every one of us is responsible for each and every thing that happens in our lives.
I read the book soon after Hurricane Katrina occurred. I thought to myself, "Really? Everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them? So people living in New Orleans are responsible for the hurricane? It happened to them because they aren't spiritual enough or enlightened enough? What kind of crap is that? And is the Universe like racist or something? Furthermore, how can you hold individuals responsible for something that happened collectively?"
That's basically what I thought to myself! In fact, I was so upset at Louise Hay, that I wrote her a letter telling her how much I disagreed with her opinion. However, I never mailed it because I was actually still thinking about it. A lot of the other things she said made a lot of sense to me, about the importance of self-love and forgiveness and all of that. She was diagnosed with cancer but was able to heal herself in three months, to her doctor's amazement.
So I started using positive affirmations and applying some of the principles she talked about. I was basically familiar with such things already, but I tried actually applying them to my life more. Once I started seeing the difference it could make, I started to believe in what she was saying.
Everything in life is such a paradox and so hard to figure out. But there are different ways of looking at this. I'm not saying that any of what I'm about to say is true. But let me offer some alternative viewpoints. For example, instead of saying that people in Tibet were killed in an Earthquake because they couldn't "hold enough light" during the transition, you could say that they were willing to assist the Earth in the process of cleansing herself, and that it was a noble act. And they didn't all die. Obviously some survived, maybe for a reason. Who knows? Furthermore, I live here in Los Angeles where my white butt is probably going to be the next to go, so don't worry about it.
Most of the authors talking about Homo Spiritus or crystal babies or Indigo children or what have you are not meaning for it to be interpreted in any sort of specie-ist type way. The fact is that every species evolves, including the human species. In the past several decades new things have been popping up in some people's DNA, hence some of the new age talk. The history of the planet is the history of evolution through cataclysmic changes and extinctions. I'm not the only one who hears the warning in the wind. I'm not the only one who hears the trees calling my name.
I also want to point out,
— Apr 28, 2010
I also want to point out, just for fun, that there are a lot of different perspectives on this. One is that Mother Earth is cleansing herself. I tend to favor that theory. Actually, it's something we're doing collectively to cleanse ourselves, is it not?
Anyway, another theory is that nothing is happening at all and that this is all a bunch of bogus. Natural disasters have always happened and always will happen.
But there's also a third perspective. The US military has the ability to control the weather and even cause things like hurricanes using "weather weapons."
(They can do other scary thing too. I went to see a guest speaker at Pasadena City College. He was a former CIA agent. He said that the US military possesses a weapon they call The Voice of God. It literally puts a voice in your head that sounds like it's coming from inside your head.) So some people, such as my boyfriend, think that the NWO/Illuminati is making some of these so-called natural disasters happen as part of their war on the people. He has a point, but I still like to be more optimistic and think that it's Mother Earth restoring herself, and really our way of restoring ourselves. Maybe we've gotten ourselves into a mess that we can't get out of any other way. Anyway, those are just my feelings right now.
But I offer these different perspectives just as a way to confuse myself and everyone else even more. Why not? What the heck. I mean, who knows anything anyway right?
>:)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/141005weather_modificat...
You have some interesting points
— Apr 29, 2010
Thank you for your perspective Boadie. I think they all make sense to me one way or another except for the one about the Tibetans offering themselves up to cleanse the earth. Why on earth would they think that they need to be the ones cleansed off the earth? Does it make sense to you? When did they decide this? Why come in the first place then if they were a scourge that needed to be cleansed?
What needs to be cleansed perhaps is our minds which have been infected with forces beyond who we really are or were ever meant to be. I'm suggesting that we all need to purify our own consciousnesses, each one of us perhaps, and then watch what happens around us. I've been working on it for myself, it's not easy discerning who I really am versus the thought patterns that I've been infected with that think they are or want to be me. Sound crazy? =) We're all crazy. Just a thought.
Find you soul...it's the one thing only you can do.
I so agree with you, to the
— Apr 28, 2010
I so agree with you, to the core. Yet I made the same mistake a few days ago:
when the volcano ashes were lying thick over Europe, I was happily thinking - oh this is so great, people see the forces of nature - maybe they will wake up - go, go mother Earth!
And in a sense this is of course true, and I do have an enormous respect for mother Earth.
Later on a friend asked me to help her "wish away" the ashes from the English airports, for personal reasons to do with the meeting with a loved one. I refused, feeling that it would be almost a sacrilege to even try to mess with the volcano ashes. I talked to her about personal gain in magic and how I felt that the world needed this obstacle to continue waking up, etc.
The next day I woke up, meditated and realized that through doing this, I was supporting the culture of fear, especially the thought that the world needs more Fear to wake up. This is so contrary from what I believe and feel from the depths of my soul:
the world needs to turn away from fear to wake up, and turn to LOVE. Only love can make people feel safe enough to make the change - and I am dead serious about this, it is no hippie-talk. When you have seen a person full of fear make any kind of cleaning ceremony or other therapy in comparison to someone who has love and safety in their lives, you know what I am talking about.
So I ended up helping my friend, because what better reason to do so than love - and realising this was so big for me that I cannot describe it, it solved so many fear issues around personal gain in magic... And there are of course many wordings one can use to avoid causing unintended harm. I am btw not saying we really affected the ashes, I later discovered that it had more or less already started to dissolve before I made my decision.
Most importantly - from now on I will truly be a love-volcano, projecting only love, understanding and peace to humanity in all forms -
cause what the world needs now is love, sweet love - and not just for some, but for everyone.
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I do really appreciate what
— Apr 28, 2010
I do really appreciate what you're saying Susan. I think there are different ways of experiencing and interpreting this thing, this Universal force of energy that we call "love." But like somebody else pointed out, perhaps to the Earth this is only a hiccup or a sneeze. It's only cataclysmic and emotional and "wrong" to us. But the Earth is not really concerned with our concerns as much as she's only concerned with her own concerns. I don't think we ultimately effect what happens either, one way or the other. I think we can only go with the flow. Resisting the flow, whatever the flow happens to be, does not work. Another way of looking at it is that maybe the Earth does love us, and this is her way of showing it.
In terms of saving the whole entire world, I don't think there's enough love in the world for the world. Or maybe there is enough love but just not enough intelligence. At any rate, I think human society is an insolvable equation. It think it's quite obvious that it is. Do you think that one day soon (and it would have to be soon, at the rate we're destroying the environment) we're all going to sit around the round table and figure this all out? It's never going to happen. Ever. Be it right or wrong, that's the conclusion I've come to. I don't believe in human society or human solutions or human ability to solve these problems. The only thing I believe in any more is nature.
dont mind the hiccups
— Apr 28, 2010
I do not mind earth's hiccups at all =) - it was more the question of how do I react on them? In this case it was in my flow to assist in reducing the fear caused by such a hiccup.
"Do you think that one day soon (and it would have to be soon, at the rate we're destroying the environment) we're all going to sit around the round table and figure this all out?"
I think we are far far far away from a "theory of everything", but I can see humanity evolving into sitting much more calmly around fires, or dinner tables or... I believe that change can go very quickly, and quicker the more love, safety (incl. comfortable living) and freedom people experience.
I think that it is in human nature to develop in this direction - call me crazy, but that is my conviction. I will publish my thoughts on this soon in The Theory of the Blooming Society and the Positive Multitude =)
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Thank you for sharing this Susan
— Apr 29, 2010
Yes! Love...I couldn't agree more. Love ourselves, forgive ourselves, see ourselves as one and equal with all that exists and we will, in effect, love everything and be the love that heals the world. Anyway, it's just an idea. =)
It's also important to point
— Apr 28, 2010
It's also important to point out that many indigenous prophecies indicate a time of tremendous upheaval, within the human heart and within Mother Earth herself. Just think of how degraded she has become due to the industrial revolution over the last century. This has inevitably led to the massive pollution of the oceans, the destruction of forests, the decimation of wildlife and the ecosystem as a whole. Is it any wonder that natural disasters are occuring at an accelerated rate? The Hopi Natives refer to this earth cleansing as the "great purification" which signals the end of this era (what they call 'the 4th world') which will herald the start of the next (or '5th world'). According to these natives and others, this purification is a natural process which is attempting to heal the wounds caused by the technological advances of our modern civilization. As for weather control by the elite, I don't know but I think it's pretty safe to assume that not every single disaster is caused by technology, some must happen due to the earth's own desire to purify itself of the toxins thrust into her by modern industrialization. I look at it as a blessing. In fact I wouldn't blame the earth for what is taking place, but the elite who is manufacturing all the causes for these upheavals. Unfortunately there are some "collateral casualties" that happen which has nothing to do with any choices by individuals who happen to be caught in the crossfire. To place blame on all people for the greedy decisions of the few is rather arrogant and irresponsible. We all have a collective destiny together, and so does the earth which is becoming sick of the elite parasites which lie upon her back.
To be fair, yes the earth can be in the process of cleansing
— Apr 29, 2010
It's the cycle of things, the earth cleanses itself just like our bodies cleanse themselves. What I am suggesting is that there may not be any intention involved, no motivation, no thought. What if thought is the dis-ease of man and not the earth. What if things are happening in an impersonal way as a result of the combination of man's intervention into the environment and the earths reaction to that and also simply what is happening because of the natural process and flow of things? The stories I read about mother earth's intention offend my sensibilities but I'm not saying that things are completely random. I do sense a cause and affect sort of play in nature and perhaps some people have the power to intentionally create certain natural affects and maybe they use it or experiment with it for whatever reason, who knows.
One question though, how do we know that the Hopi stories are authentic? Remember Chief Seattle and how everyone was quoting Chief Seattle and how it turned out to be a hoax? Anyone intelligent enough can figure out a way to imbed information and make it sound like it came authentically from a certain group of people. There are Hopi who deny the so-called Hopi prophecies. Why would that be? What if these ideas were channeled and are the same entity talking through many different people with a specific agenda that is not what it seems at the moment? Where do prophesies come from anyhow, from channeled information? From inner voices? From where exactly? How can we be sure who is talking or communicating with us? How can we know for sure that it doesn't have it's own agenda? How can we be sure that it doesn't spread itself all over the place and pretend to be whomever to whomever to get it's point across and out into the public's imagination? On the other hand, how can we be sure that it's not just a human hoax, an elaborate one, but simply a hoax. I have no idea actually. We cannot be sure, at least I don't think we can, but if you have a way to be sure, please let us know because it would be great to be sure about some of these things. Thank you for your input. :-)
Find you soul...it's the one thing only you can do.
dont judge
— May 24, 2010
don't judge...
everyone is on their own path, we're all going to the same destination. the way the 'new age' beliefs are being presented to you seems like a negative thing, but its all in the perception. if you think of things on a cosmic, universal scale then the fractal cyclic nature of all life is nothing bad or wrong, this is just a perception. a book that explains this better than i can is Lifting the Veil of Duality
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lifting-Veil-Duality-Andreas-Moritz/dp/097657153...
peace and light
