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Let me first state how utterly insane this may seem to some of you, and in fact myself. I don't claim to be correct nor do I claim any gift with this knowledge...it is a burden to have experienced what I did to find what I have and I nearly destroyed my own physical existence searching for the answer...So it will be absolutely no surprise to me when all of you throw verbal stones at me.

In my personal quest through the conceptual world we perceive, I have always wondered why there is no answer to the big question "Where do we come from". Through years of personal research and observation on the way consciousness works and interacts with itself (this will be explained later) I have come to notice extremely "creepy" connections, between all things relating to creation; Science, Religion, Mathematics, Theory....

Everything is explained and linked through holographic consciousness, which is the byproduct of wave interaction that occurs throughout multiple dimensions. Golden Geometry, fractal mathematics, holography all play a role.

Our body is a wave interpreter, and everything we see, smell, touch and know is not as it seems. Everything is the product of wave interaction. This topic, is not fully understood by me but i am not searching into it any further, i will let me theory of relativity peak your interest and find out answers for yourself...this was my tipping point and i will warn you that if you find what i did...Existence as you know it may become ruined. We are nothing special as individuals, we all tap into one higher power of consciousness, there's your hint.

Let us now think of consciousness in other ways, such as a byproduct of infinity.

My physical body is the computer for consciousness....which exists in dimensions beyond our own physical concept.... infinity in itself as a concept of everything is "reality".

This concept now relates things but does not lead to any point of exact creation...this is the biggest piece of the puzzle because the concept still leads to the question, is there a GOD, one single force behind creation...? Could we be a calculation in the singularity we are waiting for?

My answer is, I will most likely never know. I can think i do, but being human it is impossible to fully understand the beauty...the complexity of simplicity.

At age twenty, this is too much for a mind to bear and keep to myself...I honestly believe that if i keep going i will become fully insane. I need to speak with others about the possibilities of this new way of thought....
Please ask me any questions if i don't describe anything clear enough, I hate being pegged as someone who thinks things without knowledge.

-Michael
a very unstable thought

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A calculation in the singularity we are waiting for...

not only are we waiting for it we are actively adapting the calculation and willing it into fruition. I love your phrase 'My physical body is the computer for consciousness...' I feel that what 'we' are a 'part' of is a computation of consciousness and as far as we know humans (or Gaia) are the most complex-simple part of that equation. Red pill or blue?

ive taken enough pills i'd

ive taken enough pills
i'd rather sit back with some weed and accept my illusion...otherwise i might just go further and end up killing myself just to know what it is to be beyond this state of existence...
however, every time it was red

macrame

Happy to offer some notions that come as I read this--first, Thanks! for seeking, sensing, contemplating, dreaming, weaving...asking, and sharing. We are in my experience so Totally special as individuals while simultaneously connected and perhaps 'of one stuff'. There's a lot of, yes, holographic meaning in your text above...it is very beautiful the way my conscious light ripples through the colored brushtroke of terms and concepts you've applied, and reflects back, out. I even think there's a lot there that will look/feel very different to you in 10 days or maybe 10 years...DO the Dance! there is so much to move and be moved by, and no rush, no need (but cause? or Force, or God --how could the computer understand electricity? i don't think you could print that on the screen...) let the Mind find it's rest, it's strength at the yoke of soul, and that may feel for a while like surrender in the worst way, for someone probably indoctrinated in 'responsibilities'--and perhaps habituated to fearing/skirting them--but you may slowly gain a nose (a gnosis) for what's 'right' (red? real? you? us?) and of course it all...IS. believe, be alive, and begin to recognize your Self beyond all boundaries. I have no idea, but perhaps a hint of Gno-ing, where it/I/all goes...the point is Now, and if that's everywhen too, sweet.

hi waving duality one idea i

hi waving duality
one idea i would suggest is understanding that what you percieve now is only and also just your current perception, and that what you describe as true reality was really only real to you. I happen to feel just about the same way, but just because we can or can't feel ourselves there, doesn't mean we are or are not here. we are everywhere all the time maybe

here, i would like to say that we could prob be more concerned with our starving brothers, sisters, and children than what is beyond this, i would say we're not ready yet : ) much love

Part of the puzzle

thank you, your concern is appreciated...
Answer this for me
if you throw 2 (or think outside the box, with the very religious number 12) stones, each in the opposite end(s) of a puddle (suppose these stones for some reason have an infinite amount of momentum/energy...what happens?

The stones create the waves, which intersect...and will forever create interaction, every possibility will happen because it is forever...

this is a very human way of looking at how our universe works on the level of waves. Replace puddle with ____________(thought?) and replace stones with possibly energy...i cannot ever know but im exploring concepts based upon common sense and relation to other topics in regards to creation theory.
Underneath everything, I am the very power of creation that comes from the universe...it is built into the math and into our selves... we are infinity. personality is based off of conscious interaction and adaptation...but the traits of consciousness remain remarkably intact regardless of the host. Above everything, i believe in a higher power...but the only thing that i keep coming back to with reassurance is that "consciousness" defines everything...but what the fuck is consciousness if reality is whatever you perceive it to be

edit: i found this from another evovler: http://www.goldenmean.info/soulretrieval/

and i am now convinced that this is true. Through LSD and proper meditation i have experienced a similar "self awareness" the Buddhists have achieved, and quantum physics accurately describes. At age 20 i find my self more "spiritually aware" than most i meet, i have no schooling except high school and i realized everything i know through observation and interaction...i no longer take psychedelics to reach depths of my own thought, my last experience kind of shook me. I am now aware what it is like to think beyond ones own perception and understanding...It all sparked what i wrote here . wavementality.
-michael

glass house

HI Michael; the first part of your post above doesn't hold much meaning for me, and I would propose that a truly 'human' view is more universal and reductive/essential. Waves in substrates are quite pure but in an abstract fashion of projection that to most people probably seems quite cold and lifeless. What do you experience when you meditate? I'd say, getting to the state of seeing/experiencing 'waves' or similar is still representational, i.e. a map and not the real 'territory'. Any concept is still a shield, a bubble, of safety...and disconnection. As you note further on, (individual) consciousness is perception is reality, but I would argue one objective might be to turn that into a reversible equation: reality is perception is consciousness. And if your not lodged in a lonely cave, that is quite a challenge. Can you take a lover and find a place together where you're not two people anymore? And hold that like entagled quanta no matter how far in timespace you relatively shift? Just a thought...at least that's my next exercise routine : ) Then I think you will be in resonance with the real carrier waves and not a 'mere' tweakage of modulation...

Question: Beloved Osho, If

Question: Beloved Osho, If everything is simply happening, then can there be any ultimate purpose to It all, or is life just an accident? Can it be said that life is evolving towards Some ultimate goal?

Osho: It is very difficult, particularly for the Western mind, to understand that life is purposeless. And it is beautiful that it is purposeless. If it is purposeful then the whole thing becomes absurd – then who will decide the purpose? Then some God has to be conceived who decides the purpose, and then human beings become just puppets; then no freedom is possible. And if there is some purpose then life becomes businesslike, it cannot be ecstatic.

The West has been thinking in terms of purpose, but the East has been thinking in terms of purposelessness. The East says life is not a business, it is a play. And a play has no purpose really, it is nonpurposeful. Or you can say play is its own purpose, to play is enough. Life is not reaching towards some goal, life itself is the goal. It is not evolving towards some ultimate; this very moment, here and now, life is ultimate.

Life as it is, is accepted in the East. It is not moving towards some end, because if there is some end who will decide the end and why? If God decides it, then you can ask the same question about God: ”What is the purpose of creating a world with purpose?” or, ”Why should he create a purposive world?” or even more deeply, ”What is the purpose of God’s existence?” Maybe life has a purpose and God decides the purpose, but then God’s existence has to be questioned – why he exists – and that way the question is simply pushed one step ahead.

Then God becomes purposeless, or you have to create another God to decide the purpose of this God. Then you will be in a regress ad infinitum, then there is no end to it. Somewhere deep down you will have to come to the conclusion that this phenomenon is purposeless; otherwise there is no end. So why go from the world to the God? Why not say that life itself is purposeless? The whole game of logicians, theologicians, is stupid in a way. They say, ”God created the world, because how could the world come into existence if there was no one who created it?” But the question can be asked, ”Who created the God?” – and then they fall on their own. They say, ”God is uncreated.”

If God can exist without being created, why can’t this life itself exist without being created? If you accept that something is possible without being created, then what is the trouble? Then why think about a God who created the world? The East says God is not the creator, God is the creation. Nobody has created it, it is there. It has been so always, it will be so always – sometimes manifest, sometimes unmanifest; sometimes visible, sometimes invisible. It goes on moving in a periodical rhythm, in a circle. But existence itself is uncreated and it has no goal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality

Wave/particle duality can be explained by this "conscious wave theory"

"Spirit is the life. Mind is the builder. Physical is the result

Edgar Cayce's theories..
ive been reading some of this man's vision and it can also be explained scientifically, mathematically, and spiritually by infinite wave interaction aka infinity.

I'd like to speak with some people who are good with math and quantum physics to help me put this into visual form

edit: looks as if karl pibram beat me to it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holonomic_brain_theory

i have to agree with concept

i have to agree with concept exploration through the senses
it feels great
but we have to realize that the senses theirselves are corruptible
we could literally deceive ourselves with our own senses
(the adventures of buckaroo bonsai)
but beyond the senses
i feel like if we really knew what was going on
we would probably then cease to exist in this form
and as much as it is the only thing i really care about
is where i originated
i must forsake myself
to forgo the journey that i sent myself on
as much as i would like to veg out
and meditate to my higher consciousness
i feel like i have an even higher purpose than that here
to exist
cohabitate peacefully
with you all
maybe one day i will be ready to understand myself
but i dont feel deserving of it yet, personally
i kinda think it will be a united thing
yno

~i kin of think that me having offspring help me shape my perception of why i like being here, because we are, in fact, here now.

Intriguing post; interesting comments

I just want to say that I believe (maybe) that infinity is a cop out. Yes, to us the Universe is infinite. Eternity I can dig. But infinity implies that, not only are there an infinite number of mes posting an infinite number of opposing views to the one I am here entering, and in an infinite number of languages, and made out of infinite permutations of elements, ad infinitum, but that each of these mes has an infinite number of copies, infinitely and at all points along the 'temporal' 'line.'

Does anyone else revolt at this thought? Infinite to us is just really freakin' big. The only reason that infinity is so pervasive in mathematics is because it is an easy fix to difficult equations. The panacea variable, if you will.

Thanks for reading my rant,

Jacob

yes jacob dear, i

yes jacob dear, i understand

it is our struggle to try to define our existence that is failing
infinity itself is literally impossible to imagine or define
so how can we presume to embody it?
we dont know
we just feel it

maybe we could just consider it "really freakin' big"
yno
no harm
no real difference
they are all just words we made up : )
to express what we feel

like oh
and ah
define those
they arent definable
the sounds we make reflect our feelings

we could honestly say that all of words came from what we percieve

hortense ellis

See the raindrops falling from the sky?
it's about time you open your eyes.
Give thank and praise for jah mysterious ways ,
oh yeah
The rain has a season, and jah jah send it for a reason..
to water the trees as they grow,
and even herb seed that man sow
oh yeah
the sun has a reason, it makes changes for the season.
cant you see what drive the mighty thought?
he created everything under the sun,
oh yeah
the life has a meaning, and all it takes is believing,
to see jah's words manifest..
See the trees swaying gently in the breeze?
they make shelter for the birds and the bees.
in the days jah move in miraculous ways
oh yeah!
this life has a meaning, all it takes is believing

nice spit

nice spit

yaiks!

thanks! remember,nothing exist unless you believe in it,everything is illusion only love is real,this sound so simple and is really hard to understand,out of chaos came harmony,the only thing i know is that a dimond is form from a carbon rock being put thru a lot of extreme heat and pressure,but at the end is perfect and beautiful.

are those technics mk1200's

are those technics mk1200's and a numark dm1002mk2?
also, very good input man. this is so true

Infinite God...

Imagine the flash of a camera bulb. In that instance of NOW is God. All manifest and unmanifest expressed in a multidimentional holograph. Time and space are merely illusions. Consciousness in the moment of Now is eternal, trillions of Godly reflections in the mirror of illusion. You must know yourself as God, the Alpha and the Omega the nothingness and the everything. There is nothing which is not God, there is nothing which is not you.

Namaste, my brother Wave, God incarnate.

Namaste

Namaste friend
you speak so much truth in so few words it puts a smile on my face and makes me feel complete

Just a note to everyone

i wrote this article while coming off of a world-breaking psychedelic experience. I am much moreso "sober" at the moment and can research my psychic (psychedelics tap into mental power) learning. I am not touching LSD ever again, it's magic as a drug had left when i used it to learn...and now that i can teach myself i no longer have the desire to consume any longer.
While in this experience, i nearly burnt what i wrote down. There were voices inside of my head telling my if i progressed researching this further in the current state of mind, existence would come to be ruined. They were telling me they were trying to help me, and to calm down and learn more once the drugs affects had left me. After this experience...i sought after validation i was still there physically, and not just a creation of my own psyche in some "alternate" dimension. I've read articles on LSD...taking the filter off of your consciousness and letting you see/shape reality...and I'm completely happy to have experienced something that will bring me to a higher understanding. I say in the article i don't want to explore further, but i DO...my mind was weak and beaten from the experience.
What is internally interesting to me, is the differences in the "trips" of LSD and DMT..the interesting part of which is each drug alters/affects reality as you know it differently... LSD on the external (the physical, and mind interaction) and DMT on the spiritual (symbolism, geometry and intensity)
I'm also going to research more on these drugs and find the level of interaction that affects consciousness.

experimentation is good.

After a great deal of experimentation I found a cocktail of mushrooms and LSD was the trick. I experienced God-self realisation which took me to a land from which there is no return. The DMT still sits quietly in the vial on my book shelf along with the half page of LSD and the Q.P. of schrooms. The ultimate goal is a Hiawasca for a week in Peru. I am not done yet...not by a long shot.

Namaste, my brother wave, trip to Oneness on the love boat.

helpful insights

wave_duality, thanks for sharing! It sounds like you're embarking on similar path that many of us are taking. Because we are all confined to an individual point of consciousness I believe everyone's path is unique. Exploring one's own consciousness is a difficult task. We live in a physical world, defined by rational laws. Experiences we have on this path are very irrational, and do not fit so nicely into a rational or logical explanation.

I often find it puzzling, that having a consciousness altering substance in your system allows you to access parts of your psyche that are hidden to most of us during our conscious/waking lives. Why are we not able to perceive reality however we wish whenever we want to? I've found a lot of solace in some passionate individuals who have a greater intellect than I. Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project offered me the most complete picture of reality I've ever been exposed to in the material he presents in Crossing the Event Horizon:
http://www.theresonanceproject.org/products.html

An old presentation from about 8 years ago (poor video quality)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4907540922643918266#

Also CG Jung's Red Book is being published for the first time and available Oct 7th. I do not think it is an accident that all of us all over the world are beginning to have these personal revelations. I believe we are all living in a very exciting time and I feel like I'm getting closer and closer to "connecting the dots".

So researching alot into

So researching alot into different religious sects and meditation based belief,
IAOM, OM, EEraOOM...

IAOM is the secret you learn at the tipping point of the free masons secret brotherhood....a password and the name of god

Edgar cayce would chant a sound similar to this during his visions.
the Aintiram written over 12000 years ago by a man with the last name mayan, who describes OM light and OM Sound.

and researching the Nassim Haramein fellow more, i find him to be completely valid and also from a personal standpoint humbled. this is the beginning of a new age for man and science

Add the metaphor issue of

Add the metaphor issue of almost all communication..... (I think there is even a professor in Berkley who makes a big study of metaphor in all communication) ... This metaphor quirk of scholarship spices up all the game theory, the quest for purpose and the dance of infinity. Raw, ordinary life, in a period of intense evolution, can be equally comical due to clashing absurdities of failing empires. Yet health and well being are worth every effort, to detox and peace it all together ;)

stoked

stoked

you changed your post!

wonderful seeing so much personal development coming in ;)

Let's do some Conscious Science

Just saying thank YOU!!

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One Idea In Response

Blessings! Thanks for Sharing.

I feel that very often our ego can ramp up our mental bodies in our discoveries or glimpses into purpose, self and creation.

Really there are a myriad of ways of tasting that direct reality of the universe... and it is only in those moments of gnosis or direct experience do we see through the veil.

"I" think if we take away the I, my etc. the only thing that is left is pure awareness. This is what the teachings say and have felt the simplicity and paradox of this.

We have a road map, an increasing singularity and a beautiful network of support in our "own" process.

:) Gate Gate ParaGate ParaSamGate Bodhi Svaha

lovin ya'll

-Alok

"When the power of LOVE overwhelms the love of power, the world will know peace" - J.H

Funny!

Antrim is the fellow who is notme in New York. We're both from Muncie, IN, like Hudsuckers. Perhaps you could poke him up there, Slightly benevolently. His Name is Monte Antrim. and he also witnessed the falling twin towers from his bicycle. He hangs out in old people's bars. And maps the city also.

big yaaa

thank you. on point.

"they are the only texts that elucidate the manifestation process as both a spiritual and scientific process"

just manifested a lucid earth fire-oven in the back yard. attest.

thank you

thanks for the least relevant thing EVER
lol

OMG!

I said Least, but I meant Most!

NVRMND, U said that haha! Not me.

energy transforming into matter

"Aintiram refers to a text written during the first Sangam period in ancient Tamil Nadu -South India (10,000 BC). The name refers to the fivefold process of consciousness transforming itself into the material world - or energy transforming into matter"

i did a graphic representation of this a while ago after i first saw it happen on lsd

exerpt from the tibetan book of the dead

"o child of noble family, those realms too do not exist anywhere else, but lie in the four directions of your heart with the center as fifth, and now they emerge from within your heart and appear before you. Those images too do not come from anywhere else, but are primordial spontaneous play of your mind, so recognize them in this way. o child of noble family, these images are neither large nor small, but perfectly proportioned. "

;

take it easy bro dont take too much you can lose your mind in the search for truth and could easily end up homeless and paranoid trust me

I AM HOME!!! don't worry

I AM HOME!!! don't worry about me brothers and sisters.. nothing will hinder my journey of awareness!

Tat Tvam Asi

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